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R_P_A_S
5th July 2007, 04:47
I was watching this TV show that had to do with convicted murders either doing life in prison or on death row. Part of their rehabilitation or whatever you may call it, the convicted felons were given the chance to write and offer an apology with the family of his victim. CRAZY I KNOW!

One of them killed a woman's father. and was forgiven by the daughter of this man. She visit him every other month and they exchange letters. Some of the inmates even started relationships with the families of their victims. obviously this RARELY happens.

which leads to my question. a question that I'm having trouble wording.

It's obvious most us don't agree with the "correction department" within the capitalist system.
I mean most of the crimes people are in prison for have to do with capitalism. Robberies, fraud, drug abuse and even some domestic violence instigated by financial difficulties between couples.

So, Is it pretty safe to assume that most of our judgments when it comes to crime and criminals it's clouded by deep personal emotions based on a fraudulent system???

As opposed to reason and understanding that instead of pointing the finger at an individual we should be blaming the system that perpetuates these "criminal acts" against people we care for?

does this make sense?

Lets say that your father is a cashier clerk at a store. a man walks in. with the intention to rob the store. It's not personal.
He might pull out a gun and threaten that persons life, in order to get the money from the business. But he did not go in there with an animosity towards that person in particular.
He went in there with intention to obtain money from a private own business.
It's an attack on a private establishment on capitalism. NOT A PERSONAL ONE!

Unfortunately it&#39;s interpret as a personal attack not just by the clerk, but by society too. We are convinced that it&#39;s bad guys vs hard working honest people. <_<

R_P_A_S
5th August 2007, 00:49
nada?

mikelepore
10th August 2007, 17:15
You said, "the intention to rob the store. It&#39;s not personal" -- but the robber knows that the clerk is not the dictator or oppressor, just someone who is surviving by means of having a job there. A victim of a bad social system knowingly threatens another victim of the bad social system. But other people have different kinds of brains, and they wouldn&#39;t harm a clerk in a store no matter how hungry they got. This kind of variation anywhere in nature usually indicates a normal (Gaussian) distribution. So whatever this mental faculty is that some call the conscience or moral sense, and others call the superego or other psychological terms, it seems to be some kind of magnitude along a scale with statistical distribution. Therefore, it&#39;s probably the case that the issue of what kind of social system we are born into and raised under causes the mean and variance of that distribution to move one way or another. That person on one extreme of the distribution, in the most perfect social system he or she may have turned out to be one of the more nasty and unliked people in the neighborhood, but not as extreme in behavior as today, and in today&#39;s competitive and strife-ridden social system this same person is much more violent. If my assumption is correct, every human society in the future must have laws, police and jails, but the most perfected classless society will have far fewer occasions to use these things.