WRONG USE OF CHE'S IMAGE (must see pic)

[blazeofglory]

http://communistsforkerry.com/images/Che_banner_150.gif

The image speaks for itself. :angry:

Che is potrayed sayin "I want you to buy a CHE T-shirt" and to cross all limits, he has been framed as "the world's greatest T-shirt salesman".

Of all the irony that exists, the capitalists have used the CHE image as another means for earning, and that too with such distasteful manner.

I have seen some more T-shirts with similar words and some others with Che titled as a "murderer". It really hurts to frame a leader, a hero, a revolutionary in that manner. As for such T-shirts, I believe they must be boycotted in some manner.

In a way, I admit, credit must be given to some of these T-shirts to have made Che popular but what is the cost? SOME Brand misusing the image of CHE?

well, need some opinions here.

seremos como el che
hasta la victoria siempre
Che está vivo. Vidas de Che.
El alma de Che vive encendido. Desea vivo la revolución.

:hammer:
blaze :A: :AO: :redstar:

[Red Rebel]

Yeah Che Mart sucks. I just ignore the site.

[Janus]

We have an entire sticky on this:
Countless Che Guevara T-shirts,lighters,etc. (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=43114)

[Panda Tse Tung]

When the capitalists hang us, they will sell us the ropes.

Thats all i need to say about it.

[Led Zeppelin]

They already own the ropes, why would they sell it to us? :S

[Panda Tse Tung]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 11:17 am
They already own the ropes, why would they sell it to us? :S
For their greedy. They want money even if it is not to the advancement of their own goals. A lot of people got interested in Communism through Che, and who we're the ones cultivating his image? The Cappie's.


Why bother? Che is a great symbol, yes, but I don't think we need a cult of personality.

It's seldomly a 'cult', it's more of a great sense of respect towards his achievements and himself.

[blazeofglory]

to think about the fact that most people know CHE as only as the GUY OF THE T-SHIRT, and not of the achievements that he has gone through.

che was a great soul who had the love of humanity and worked for the unification of latin america and liberation of mankind.

it actually doesn't do his morale any good by remaining as a figure in capitalist owned t-shirts, coffee mugs, baseball hats etc.

we have martyred him, how can anything be more ironical than this?

[Wanted Man]

I find it funny, even though I do have Che shirts.

[blazeofglory]

Originally posted by Dick [email protected] 08, 2007 04:43 pm
I find it funny, even though I do have Che shirts.
so do i, and infact more other CHE merchandise coz that Che image gives me a burning sensation to buy the t-shirt though i kno it is not doing his spirit any good.

[EwokUtopia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 04:06 pm
to think about the fact that most people know CHE as only as the GUY OF THE T-SHIRT
It can be far more painful than this, Im afraid. There is a large group of people who believe that "the guy on the T-shirt" is somehow the lead-singer of Rage Against The Machine.

Not surprising when you consider most Che shirts have Rage on them, it seems, and most of the Western Middle Class is painfully simpleminded.

[Black Cross]

Not surprising when you consider most Che shirts have Rage on them, it seems, and most of the Western Middle Class is painfully simpleminded.

Really? I have never seen a che shirt with the word rage on it, though i'm sure it exists. I have one that says revolucion; but i didn't buy it, i stole it; that just seemed like the right way to come into possession of a che t-shirt, haha. But that is a bit of a slap on the face that they would confuse him with some dude in some band.

And why do we advertise for these companies? Isn't that sort of blasphemy?

[EwokUtopia]

Originally posted by Marxist-[email protected] 09, 2007 04:25 pm
Really? I have never seen a che shirt with the word rage on it, though i'm sure it exists.
http://www.whogivesashirt.ca/pictures/EM7500649.JPG

Not only does it exist, but its the only rage shirt ive ever seen, and you know high school kids and the bandshirts.

So, this leads to the assumption that this dude is the leadsinger.



You must admit, its a very rockstar picture, and has alot more to say about teenage rebellion than revolutionary theory and action.

[Black Cross]

Originally posted by EwokUtopia+July 09, 2007 04:34 pm--> (EwokUtopia @ July 09, 2007 04:34 pm)
Marxist-[email protected] 09, 2007 04:25 pm
Really? I have never seen a che shirt with the word rage on it, though i'm sure it exists.

Not only does it exist, but its the only rage shirt ive ever seen, and you know high school kids and the bandshirts.

So, this leads to the assumption that this dude is the leadsinger.



You must admit, its a very rockstar picture, and has alot more to say about teenage rebellion than revolutionary theory and action.[/b]
Is it actually a band shirt though? Or did some idiot just think it was the band, and start some fallacy about Che? I think it just means, literally, rage against the machine (as in the capitalist machine), not the band. Either way, communists probably shouldn't wear that. It'll just perpetuate the idea that Che was a lead singer for a band.

Thanks for the heads up comrade Ewok

[blazeofglory]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 03:52 pm
It can be far more painful than this, Im afraid. There is a large group of people who believe that "the guy on the T-shirt" is somehow the lead-singer of Rage Against The Machine.

Not surprising when you consider most Che shirts have Rage on them, it seems, and most of the Western Middle Class is painfully simpleminded.

http://images.art.com/images/-/Che-Guevara--C11753206.jpeg
now, Rage Against the Machine is a revolutionary socialist band.

so that decreases the degree of "pain" as you spell it but you are completely right. I mean it cuts down the exploring part of the laymen to know who Che really was. Personally, one year back (believe me, I became enlightened about the left, Che and stuff only some months back thanks to a fellow member here Che_Diwas bro), I too used to think that he was some kinda Rock Artist.... like Jim Morrison or Slayer, Iron Maiden etc. though the face always seemed iconic.


I have one that says revolucion; but i didn't buy it, i stole it; that just seemed like the right way to come into possession of a che t-shirt, haha. But that is a bit of a slap on the face that they would confuse him with some dude in some band.

And why do we advertise for these companies? Isn't that sort of blasphemy?

well that reminds me of one T-shirt that says MURDERER...... I saw someone wearing that T-shirt, and the inner me wanted to punch that guy right in the nose.

THE IMAGE:
http://members.aol.com/Guanabacoa/chemurderer.jpg

now BLASPHEMY? dude, where does that word come from. You consider che as an idol doesn't mean you commit some sorta idolatry, or do you?

and about the advertising thing, yeah thats the confusing part, TO DO OR NOT TO DO IS THE QUESTION


You must admit, its a very rockstar picture, and has alot more to say about teenage rebellion than revolutionary theory and action.

well, when it is rebellious , and filled with "RAGE" , admit it, it isn't THAT bad, i mean it is atleast "rage against the machine", rite?



Is it actually a band shirt though? Or did some idiot just think it was the band, and start some fallacy about Che? I think it just means, literally, rage against the machine (as in the capitalist machine), not the band. Either way, communists probably shouldn't wear that. It'll just perpetuate the idea that Che was a lead singer for a band.

Thanks for the heads up comrade Ewok

well, I too had assumed that, I mean I like this catchy thing "RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE" and I can understand why the band kept that name, so it perfectly suits CHE......... yeah


just for the record....
i saw one T-shirt like THIS:
http://http://www.christianaction.org.za/IMAGES/che_web.jpg

IT HURTS!!! and guess what was the bloody theme "GLAMOURISING A MASS MURDERER" .........

I hate the western fascists.

and this T-shirt on the body of SANTANA aroused some criticism just because it was a CHE IMAGE
http://drizzten.com/ima/SantanaChe.jpg

[Black Cross]

Just to clarify, I was using the term blasphemy very loosely. And not blasphemy against che, but against socialism and communism. We advertise for capitalist companies. That just seems backwards to me.

[blazeofglory]

Originally posted by Marxist-[email protected] 11, 2007 09:41 pm
Just to clarify, I was using the term blasphemy very loosely. And not blasphemy against che, but against socialism and communism. We advertise for capitalist companies. That just seems backwards to me.
IT IS BACKWARD...... YEAH.... but everyone seems to have become addicted to it

[Saint Street Revolution]

That's a little parody site, just ignore it I think.

[RbG]

Che mart is stupid&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: just ignore the stupid rediculous site&#33;&#33; <_<

[blackstone]

I have a shirt that says Rage Against Oppression, and has Che&#39;s pic on it. I just wear it as a undershirt.
Sorry Che.

[Bobi]

and what would you say on this:
(its from rise of neonacism - France, 1971)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5434/affichenrdtournantlechewb1.jpg

[lilo32]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 03:44 pm

well that reminds me of one T-shirt that says MURDERER...... I saw someone wearing that T-shirt, and the inner me wanted to punch that guy right in the nose.


che was a revolutionary not a hater. what s wrong with this forum i found it thinking there are some real revolucionarios who think like revolucionarios not trying to create shit out of nothing

[Comrade Nadezhda]

It can be far more painful than this, Im afraid. There is a large group of people who believe that "the guy on the T-shirt" is somehow the lead-singer of Rage Against The Machine.

Not surprising when you consider most Che shirts have Rage on them, it seems, and most of the Western Middle Class is painfully simpleminded.

http://images.art.com/images/-/Che-Guevara--C11753206.jpeg
now, Rage Against the Machine is a revolutionary socialist band.

so that decreases the degree of "pain" as you spell it but you are completely right. I mean it cuts down the exploring part of the laymen to know who Che really was. Personally, one year back (believe me, I became enlightened about the left, Che and stuff only some months back thanks to a fellow member here Che_Diwas bro), I too used to think that he was some kinda Rock Artist.... like Jim Morrison or Slayer, Iron Maiden etc. though the face always seemed iconic.


I have one that says revolucion; but i didn&#39;t buy it, i stole it; that just seemed like the right way to come into possession of a che t-shirt, haha. But that is a bit of a slap on the face that they would confuse him with some dude in some band.

And why do we advertise for these companies? Isn&#39;t that sort of blasphemy?

well that reminds me of one T-shirt that says MURDERER...... I saw someone wearing that T-shirt, and the inner me wanted to punch that guy right in the nose.

THE IMAGE:
http://members.aol.com/Guanabacoa/chemurderer.jpg

now BLASPHEMY? dude, where does that word come from. You consider che as an idol doesn&#39;t mean you commit some sorta idolatry, or do you?

and about the advertising thing, yeah thats the confusing part, TO DO OR NOT TO DO IS THE QUESTION


You must admit, its a very rockstar picture, and has alot more to say about teenage rebellion than revolutionary theory and action.

well, when it is rebellious , and filled with "RAGE" , admit it, it isn&#39;t THAT bad, i mean it is atleast "rage against the machine", rite?



Is it actually a band shirt though? Or did some idiot just think it was the band, and start some fallacy about Che? I think it just means, literally, rage against the machine (as in the capitalist machine), not the band. Either way, communists probably shouldn&#39;t wear that. It&#39;ll just perpetuate the idea that Che was a lead singer for a band.

Thanks for the heads up comrade Ewok

well, I too had assumed that, I mean I like this catchy thing "RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE" and I can understand why the band kept that name, so it perfectly suits CHE......... yeah


just for the record....
i saw one T-shirt like THIS:
http://http://www.christianaction.org.za/IMAGES/che_web.jpg

IT HURTS&#33;&#33;&#33; and guess what was the bloody theme "GLAMOURISING A MASS MURDERER" .........

I hate the western fascists.

and this T-shirt on the body of SANTANA aroused some criticism just because it was a CHE IMAGE
http://drizzten.com/ima/SantanaChe.jpg[/QUOTE]
Like in the state where I live, there are a lot of fascists who would and do wear shit like that. There are also a lot of Nazis. It pisses me off.

[nvm]

When the capitalists hang us, they will sell us the ropes.

Thats all i need to say about it.
When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the ropes we use.
It was a quote by Josef Stalin:D

[SocialDemocracy19]

Who cares what the capitalists try to say about che all we as leftists know what he did was right and heroic, and of course capitalists are going to be offended by us wearing his image as he wasnt afraid of u.s. bullying, so like weve seen so many times before such as were seeing in the current day with hugo chavez in venezuela the capitalists are just threatened that there own people are learning the truth of these prophet like revolutionaires of the poor! viva el che!!

[ellipsis]

Not only does it exist, but its the only rage shirt ive ever seen.


No there are more, I have one somewhere, but i can't remember what's on it. I also own like five che shirts (including one that i bought in cuba) in addition to lots of other leftist shirts. I figure as long as a bunch of idiots are wearing them, someone who actually knows a lot about the man and his legacy should wear it too. Also the fact that it is so cliché makes me want to wear them even more, for some odd reason, i guess because i want to re-appropriate it.

[non-vio-resist]

http://communistsforkerry.com/images/Che_banner_150.gif

John Leguizamo and Che: separated at birth?

[Cymru]

I would like to buy one, but i dont want people to think im one of those who wear it because it looks good, instead of in admiration of a great man

[CheGuevaraRage]

Look what they have done to Che...showed him as a capitalist pig...

[Kami]

He has delved into the dark arts of threadomancy... whence now shall this twisted mind head?

[Ben Franklin]

The image speaks for itself. :angry:

Che is potrayed sayin "I want you to buy a CHE T-shirt" and to cross all limits, he has been framed as "the world's greatest T-shirt salesman".

Of all the irony that exists, the capitalists have used the CHE image as another means for earning, and that too with such distasteful manner.

I have seen some more T-shirts with similar words and some others with Che titled as a "murderer". It really hurts to frame a leader, a hero, a revolutionary in that manner. As for such T-shirts, I believe they must be boycotted in some manner.

In a way, I admit, credit must be given to some of these T-shirts to have made Che popular but what is the cost? SOME Brand misusing the image of CHE?

well, need some opinions here.

seremos como el che
hasta la victoria siempre
Che está vivo. Vidas de Che.
El alma de Che vive encendido. Desea vivo la revolución.

:hammer:
blaze :A: :AO: :redstar:


Che is Muerta, Dead, Gone Forever rotting in the earth, he joined those he murdered in cold blood, Castro will soon join him. You fools who glorify that asshole are fools too. You are not prepared for what Communism will realistically do to your life, your loved ones, and, the living conditions you feel are better than what Capitalism in a Free Republic provides by allowing your sorry ass to earn by having pure integrity. I will be flamed and barred from this post on so allow me to depart by saying FUCK che`, FUCK communism,socialism, and liberalism, and fuck you all!
Ronald Reagan was the best thing to ever happen to communism this century. Kiss my CONSRVATIVE RIGHT WING ASS!
You want liberalism, communism or socialism, move to Venezuela! Get the fuck out of my AMERICA! All of you POS rat bastards!

[gla22]

In before ban.

And BTW saying Regan was good and che was a murderer is hypocritical. Regan has way more blood on his hands.

[CheGuevaraRage]

What if Che murdered...He also helped....

[An archist]

You want liberalism, communism or socialism, move to Venezuela! Get the fuck out of my AMERICA! All of you POS rat bastards!
They have liberalism and socialism in Venezuela? Make up your mind.