The Che-Lives.com Doctrine - wha is it?

[革命者]

what is it? what do we want the world to understand-believe in?

Scotty.

ps.

[革命者]

btw. what if we change the name of this forum from Theory -> Theory-Philosophy..? would give members an oppertnaty to post philosophy as well as theory!

(Edited by Scotty at 11:12 am on Mar. 31, 2003)


(Edited by Scotty at 11:17 am on Mar. 31, 2003)

[El Che]

What? :)

[mentalbunny]

Mate, the forum names are only guidlines, post what you want, doesn't matter if it doesn't fit exactly.

And we don't have one set of ideas, you may have noticed the heated debates across the board, we have many kinds of leftists here so there is not one message.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Quote: from Scotty on 10:04 am on Mar. 31, 2003
what is it? what do we want the world to understand-believe in?

World domination at all costs. As a matter of fact our guerilla forces are presently massing on the Canadian and Mexican borders in perparation for an all-out attack on the US.

If we fail at that we'll turn eveyone into Scotsmen so we can win Wimbledon.


(Edited by Uhuru na Umoja at 3:50 pm on April 1, 2003)

[Dhul Fiqar]

Our doctrine is the following:

1. Don't talk about fight school
2. Don't make stupid jokes based on the movie Fight School

--- G.

[mentalbunny]

Why am I the only person giving a proper response?!!!

But anyway, yeah, you're asking the wrong question, Scotty.

[ComandanteMario]

No is the movie called 'Fight Club'. That was a great movie, by the way. Lets talk about it ;)

[Show me the Money]

it's still a shame this community is not capable of political action.. that's all...

:cheesy:

Scotty.

[Palmares]

Our doctrine is just leftism right?

Convertly communism/socialism?

[Ramon2003]

i have a problem with "doctrine". sounds like we all have to think and feel and do the same; that for sure cannot be any perspective for socialists, can it?
i state: 1. to be socialist means to be individual;
2. doctrine and individualism dont fit.

[kylie]

my thought is that the whole purpose of this discussion tha happens on the forum is to create a doctrine accepted by all. whether this actually ever is achieved i dont know.
as for action, well action cant be taken until internal differences have been sorted i.e. arguements over authoritarianism/anti etc etc.

(Edited by feoric at 10:25 pm on April 4, 2003)

[Larissa]

Quote: from ComandanteMario on 6:10 pm on April 3, 2003
No is the movie called 'Fight Club'. That was a great movie, by the way. Lets talk about it ;)
Bienvenido Comandante Mario! Hope you enjoy our "mad" forum :cool:

[Larissa]

Quote: from Ramon2003 on 11:30 am on April 4, 2003
i have a problem with "doctrine". sounds like we all have to think and feel and do the same; that for sure cannot be any perspective for socialists, can it?
i state: 1. to be socialist means to be individual;
2. doctrine and individualism dont fit.

Heya, Ramon2003, welcome aboard!

[Larissa]

Ok, let's define "doctrine" in the first place.

A teaching, instruction, something that's being taught?

A dogma?

A principle or position or a body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief?

(Edited by Larissa at 8:06 pm on April 4, 2003)

[Larissa]

Quote: from Show me the Money on 10:13 pm on April 3, 2003
it's still a shame this community is not capable of political action.. that's all...

:cheesy:

Scotty.
I second that, you bright minded comrade (oneofmyfavouritecomrades) :cool:

[Pete]

I have just read an interview that gave me something that shows how Che-Lives fits into the world.

Ed Herman: It's pretty tough right now. Everybody that I know who's on the honest Left is pretty darn depressed-things have not been going our way. But there's no way an honest Leftist can give up the fight. We have to keep trying, and what we have to say to citizens everywhere is that we are in the huge majority, and our time will come. So we have to educate ourselves; we have to link up with others of similar beliefs; we have to network on email systems and in organizations; and we have to build grassroots movements. We can't do it ourselves, but we can't abandon the struggle either. The struggle is going to go on. And so, our options right now are, information, organization and education.

I forgot to get the link, but it is at Z-Net and is from March 5th.

[Show me the Money]

Quote: from feoric on 11:23 pm on April 4, 2003
my thought is that the whole purpose of this discussion tha happens on the forum is to create a doctrine accepted by all. whether this actually ever is achieved i dont know.
as for action, well action cant be taken until internal differences have been sorted i.e. arguements over authoritarianism/anti etc etc.

(Edited by feoric at 10:25 pm on April 4, 2003)
agreed.

thanks, Lara.. i am honored to be complimented by such a bright individual, dear comrade and fellow translator:biggrin:, as yourself.

but..

...we will make a difference.. we will make a difference.. we will continue to struggle for political revolution, justice.. a stuggle which should get contribution by everyone in this world, where his abilities lie.. his comrades and friends will stick by him-- for we at the end can say as one.. every nation united-- 'old and wise'.. that our struggle from our hearts has gave us a united world-- equal sharing.., a greater good...

Éramos revolucionarios verdaderos!

In the footsteps of man like Ernesto Guevara....

Hasta La Victoria Siempre!!

Scotty.

[革命者]

as for united.. we are..
because-- "Todas la luchas contra la opresión son una misma lucha" -- Lara

great words by a great human being:biggrin:

[革命者]

bump

[Show me the Money]

i think a part of the doctrine is the boycott of the corporate-supported zionist cause.

(by boycotting these corporations, IT'S THAT EASY!!)

Corporate Black List (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=14&topic=436&start=0)

boycott them!!

JUST DO IT :P

[革命者]

a good definition would, imo, be:
«An idea of live and society, a teaching, an extension to ideology, sometimes thought up by a think tank, sometimes by individuals, which are shared by a group of people - out of solidarity and/or tolerance - to achieve a certain goal.»

any comments on that?