New type of fascism?

[Dimentio]

Immigration by the number (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=Immigration+by+the+number&total=365&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)

This is a very strange speech, and yet one of the most watched at Google Video. I thought it might be suitable to write a topic about this video. I agree with the speaker that it is important that we try to institute family planning to get a balanced population curve, but the perspective of the speech inclines that the real raison behind that programme is to try to sell out an anti-immigrant programme to progressive people.

What do you think?

[bezdomni]

It isn't like its a new tactic for fascists to try to seem progressive and hi-jack leftist movements.

Same shit, different words, loopier logic.

[Rollo]

I didn't watch the whole thing for sake of my brain cells but to me it looks just like sovietpants suggested, similiar to the nazbols who openly recruit young people with pictures of nazbol females in sexy positions etc.

[Dr Mindbender]

which video is it? I just see loads of different ones. :blink:

[Dimentio]

I have fixed the problem with the link now.

[rouchambeau]

Wait, where did he talk about the environment?

[Dimentio]

Well, he somehow somewhat claims that immigration is responsible for environmental problems.

[Comrade_Scott]

that was one fucking ugly tie :lol: anyway same old shit new face but watch it again he said 460 million then 4.6 billion

[Never Give In]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 02:38 pm
Same shit, different words, loopier logic.
Agreed.

[apathy maybe]

Historically some environmentalists have indeed attempted to argue for strong state controls to combat environmental problems.


However, at least since the 1970s most environmentalists have been moving towards a decentralised approach, direct democracy and similar. Murray Bookchin advocated social ecology for example. Indeed, today I doubt you would find any serious environmental organisation that promoted a strong state, rather then decentralisation.

(Disclaimer, I haven't actually seen the video... :))

As to immigration, again there are some groups that might advocate limiting immigration for environmental reasons, but most of the time this aspect is out weighed by two things, wanting refugees to be allowed to come in, and abolishing borders full stop. If we got rid of countries and borders, we wouldn't have any immigration.

[rouchambeau]

Well, he somehow somewhat claims...
Whoa. Stop right there. First of all, if you say "somehow somewhat" you're making it way to obvious that you know there isn't any connection between this guy's anti-immigration stance and evirionmentalism at large. Second, who are you to assume that this moron speaks for the entire environmentalist movement?