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Rebelde para Siempre
14th March 2003, 16:14
Satanism (to my knowledge) is based on the theory of self indulgence, and the acceptance that humans are greedy animals only living to satisfy their personal desires. ie. Self first, others last.

Capitalism is also based on the individual at all costs. Capitalists accept their system as one in which everyone is expected to act in their own interests.

I was watching a program in which a Satanist said that most successful capitalists in this world are unknowingly acting the way that satanists advocate. Interesting isn't it?

It should also be noted that socialism adheres to the ideals set out in most of the religions. (Sharing, equality, etc etc.) I also read that the theory of socialism was actually spawned in debates as an alternative to christianity. Strange that socialism and religion are so closely related, when communism is so often denounced as an atheist system.

Pete
14th March 2003, 16:39
Socialism rejects all previous dogma's, since they place one individual ahead of the community, where as in socialism the community goes ahead of the individual.

Castroid
14th March 2003, 19:16
I completely agree with you Rebelde para Siempre, i have thought almost exactly the same as you for a long time. i believe that capitalism is the version of satan on earth and it must be destroyed before it destroys us.

Pete
14th March 2003, 19:30
Rembmer that site that claimed that the church must fight communism because marx was satanic?

Castroid
14th March 2003, 19:38
yeah...i agree that there are a few satanic and atheist commies that the church would be against, but there are many commies (like myself) who believe in and follow a religion. its just the stereotypes of commies and also capitalist propaganda that makes people think that all commies are satanists or atheists.

Pete
14th March 2003, 19:48
I think all commies should reject all dogmas. Included marxist dogmas. And think for themselves.

I just used periods instead of commas.

Castroid
14th March 2003, 19:52
the thing is, if commies rejected all dogmas, including commie ones, we wouldnt be commies, we would be anarchists.

Pete
14th March 2003, 19:57
If we take the best from marx, che, stalin, lenin, mao, trostky, engels, and others and made our own conclusions from them we would not have teh divisions we see today.

Castroid
14th March 2003, 22:59
hmm....i think we are starting to drift from the subject at hand here...we started by comparing capitalism to satanism, and now we're talking about how communism has divided in to different groups. i think we should go back to the original subject.

Pete
14th March 2003, 23:11
But since capitalism remains true to its modified view point, it can consolidate more power behind it, isn't the devil supposed to be extremely powerful and the sole ruler of hell where in heaven their are the angels and cherums and such dividing the power with god as an over seer? the division in communism relates more to christianity then satanism

rustyjames
18th March 2003, 05:42
I believe that propaganda is the root of all evil

YerbaMateJ
28th March 2003, 07:06
Quote: from Rebelde para Siempre on 4:14 pm on Mar. 14, 2003


I was watching a program in which a Satanist said that most successful capitalists in this world are unknowingly acting the way that satanists advocate. Interesting isn't it?



It certainly is interesting. And if there is a Devil, it would be just like him to convince the world of just the opposite scenario. That's his job!

And OH yeah baby. Propaganda is the mother of his children.

Dr. Rosenpenis
29th March 2003, 05:02
So communism resembels religion?

We mustn't forget that religion is counter-revolutionary, it's an enemy of the worker, it subjugates the people and only works against the unification of the proletariat.

YerbaMateJ
29th March 2003, 07:30
Quote: from Victorcommie on 5:02 am on Mar. 29, 2003
So communism resembels religion?

We mustn't forget that religion is counter-revolutionary, it's an enemy of the worker, it subjugates the people and only works against the unification of the proletariat.

Do you mean public display of religion (formal and organized with churches, etc.), private worship (non-organized), or both?

koskenkorva
30th March 2003, 13:07
I would just like to say that theres two kinds of capitalism.....The first and the worst: USA-style! but the other one:Small-countrys-like-finland-capitalism.... and I`m like 50% socialist and 50% small-country-capitalism....and I think that usa-style-capitalism is related to satanism....Absolutly! but I think that we could all live in paradise whit a 50% socialist and 50% small-country-capitalism. it might sound stupid....but thats just what I think....And I also think that there must be more nationalism.....NO FUCKIN EU and shit like that....evry country must have their own political system whitout anyone tellin them what to do! if a country has problems they should fix it on there own...AND NOT HAVIN USA SENDIN ITS TROOPS EVRYWHERE!

ravengod
31st March 2003, 13:09
its a little bit extreme don t u think?
i mean come on satanism has nothing todo with capitalism
it appeared as a religion long before capitalism
think again about this!!!!

YerbaMateJ
1st April 2003, 04:37
Ravengod, I think they mean that capitalism is tool of the Devil---or Satan---whatever. The "devil"---if their is such a force---uses capitalism to rob humans of their souls.

And it's working.

YMj

Umoja
2nd April 2003, 22:38
The "Devil" is a representation of the darker half of the human mind, I guess the Id. Captalism feeds the Id, quite a bit of food. We can agree that stuff like that is wrong, I guess.

Boris Moskovitz
6th April 2003, 04:09
True... Capitalism is very greedy. But if you people put it that way, then I guess I will agree with you on Cappies with Satanism. Capitalism is not based on Satanism though, it has its own beliefs, but it somehow just links back there XD

Capitalism is related on Satanism, but I don't think they know it. Some people are just blind. I think this is a very interesting theory.

Purple
9th April 2003, 14:02
Satanism- me first; fuck everyone else

Capitalism- me first; fuck everyone else

i used to know a satanist who went to brazil to "convert" people, and bring the belief of satanism to the poorer parts of the world. he did pretty good till he died... killed by a fucked up american... (its true, i swear; nice fellow..but i guess he was a bit "extreme")