Racism and Fascism

[Media Tragedy]

Alot of people on RevLeft that I have read in the last 10 minutes I've been a member seem to imply that Racists and Fascists are the exact same things. So here's my views, lemme get some input.

Racists are people who discriminate against a certain ethnic group, or believe their own ethnic group is better than all others.

Fascism is a form of government that completely and totally controls all people and every aspect of them. People cannot do or say anything that at all opposes the Fascist government, or they face imprisonment without trial.

Fascism dictates ALL members of a country, not just certain ethnic groups. Racism is just discrimanation and not dictation anyway.

NAZI is the word you're looking for, I think. Hitler's ideals were basically Racist and Fascist, for he commited Fascism upon his enemies.

I put this in the Learning topic because here's my question: Am I right?

[Janus]

Yes, you are correct in that racism and fascism are two separate ideologies born out of different responses but they are connected due to the tendency of fascists to build a national unity which is usually based on a racial or cultural aspect. I'm not sure who has been implying that they are the same things but if it was in the anti-fascism forum then it was probably an unintentional representation of the strong connections between racism and fascism in many of the current fascist movements in the world.

[redcannon]

why exactly is MT banned?

[RedArmyFaction]

Mussolini was a fascist but he wasn't racist. Racism and Fascism are not the same thing.

[Tatarin]

Mussolini was a fascist but he wasn't racist. Racism and Fascism are not the same thing.

Maybe not, but Mussolini was allied with Hitler - a racist. If I have a racist friend, am I a racist too?

Also, like Janus said, fascism also tends to "create" an enemy - a culture, country or race, and so on. Come to think of it, the only way fascism can be without racist tendencies is if the whole world is fascist, i.e. no more "enemies".

By the way, I think it was just recently some fascist party in Italy took distance from all racist views.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 08:08 am
Mussolini was a fascist but he wasn't racist. Racism and Fascism are not the same thing.
Of course Mussolini was a racist; just ask the Abyssinians. What he wasn't, on the contrary of Hitler, was a genocidal racist - he thought "inferior" people should work for the mighty Italians, not be wiped out of the world to make Lebensraum for a Greater Italy. Also, he was not a fanatical antisemite as Hitler. His racism was closer to the "standard" racism of his times.

Luís Henrique

[Janus]

why exactly is MT banned?
Sock puppet for Mark Schellman. Please check the admin actions thread next time.

[condor]

Fascism is inherently nationalistic. The extremity of nationalism depends on how much working-class conciousness must be divided and turned in on its self. To me, racism and xenophobia are equally bad (as is any form of biological or geographic discrimination); they both discriminate against something a person cannot choose and cannot be used to determine how they will act.

Fascism is inherently nationalistic and discriminatory. Wether it discriminates against one particular group over another is besides the point.