Corporations and Communism - what happens to them?

[CopperGoat]

I was just wondering about this today, what happens when there is a capitalist country, and it turns communist through a revolution. But the corporations are still there, what happens to them? There isin't supposed to be competition in communism. Is there one corporation that is owned by the government and that one makes all the products? Please help.

[Blibblob]

I would think that the corporations would just be taken over by the government. Untill the domestic system comes back... ;)

[canikickit]

Yes, nationalisation. The basic idea is that the corperations would still exist, but would be in the hand of the people rather than a bunch of guys who play golf and smoke cigars.

Superfluous corperations would be annihilated and their workers slaughtered.

(Edited by Joe Frasier at 3:33 am on Mar. 2, 2003)


(Edited by canikickit at 3:37 am on Mar. 2, 2003)

[redstar2000]

Probably the corporations would be broken up into production units, following nationalization...based on the production of specific products or services.

"superfluous corporations would be annihilated and their workers slaughtered"--canikickit

Someone been hacking your computer again, comrade c?

:cool:

[Sol]

Yep, the company would be "nationalized"... but the thought of turning it over to a government gives me chills. I like Redstar's idea much better; break it up into smaller production units and put those under direct, local, worker control.

[Blibblob]

Does that smell like the domestic system?

[革命者]

(..), but would be in the hand of the people rather than a bunch of guys who play golf and smoke cigars.
don't you talk bad about ppl smoking cigars, or go to another forum!!:cheesy:

(Edited by Scotty at 4:36 pm on Mar. 2, 2003)

[Iepilei]

well the ownership in title would belong to the state - however worker control is a requirement of a socialist stance.

[BOZG]

I think a lot of people have misconceptions about what happens to corporations. A lot of people seem to think, that we'd just destroy them all and just have a single factory producing the same type of clothes, food etc over and over. Production would pretty much continue on just as it does today except with workers controlling the factories and an end to excess and un-needed goods being produced.

[CopperGoat]

So, what's this nationalization thing? What does it mean?

[sc4r]

Quote: from CopperGoat on 2:44 am on Mar. 3, 2003
So, what's this nationalization thing? What does it mean?

The profit generated by a copororation after all expenses have been paid go to society rather than to an inividual investor.

It is also society (via an elected government in most models) that decides how much to re-invest in new equipment (and also in new corporations for that matter).

In most models society also provides the equivalent of a board of directors.

Exactly how this is done and exactly how routine management is carried out depends on the model you are talking about.

[CopperGoat]

What are the models you are talking about? Come on people have more details, I have to fight the commie bastards.

[CopperGoat]

WHOOPS!!!
I am sorry, I did not mean commie bastards. I meant cappie bastards. They both start with c, sorry about that!!!!

[synthesis]

You can edit your posts, you know :)

[DEFMARX]

BornofZapatasGuns, I think you are grossly mistaken to think that production would continue like it does now, after the revolution. There would not simple be a change of power. There would most definately be a change of production.

What I believe all true followers and supports of the revolution must admit and accept is that capitalism is a faster producing economy. It MUST always become larger, faster, and newer or else it dies. That is what ensures the inevitability of the revolution that Marx prophesized. Capitalism will kill itself.

True, it is a misconception to think that in a Marxist state, there will be one mega business, controlled by the state. There will certainly be variety and high quality. However, there will not be the obsessed drive to add the weight of useless contraptions to the shopping carts of our hard working families. In capitalism, production and business is driven under one ideal. To make every person into capital, either by taken their labor or turning them into noting more than consumers. Why else do you think so many people these days simply have to have the smallest, and coolest cell phones? It's the same principle.

[CopperGoat]

I still don't get it. Help me out please!!

[Iepilei]

many talk about technological advancements as inherant in capitalism. I see no such thing, infact I'm starting to see a lack of diversity and advancement. Many 'new' technologies we're presented with are the result of past research, usually headed by a government agency of sorts.

not to mention the capitalist system is wasteful in terms of resource allocation.

[RedComrade]

If I were you and wanted to learn a good introduction to Marxism/Communism I would definately check out the link I am posting below: http://www.marxists.org/subject/students/index.htm
definately worth checking out....

[CopperGoat]

Ok, thanx comrades!!

[CopperGoat]

Oh, what about competition. How is that abolished in a communist country?