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OneBrickOneVoice
20th June 2007, 04:34
what Oi! and Street, RedSkin/Antifa music do people here listen too? I like

Los Fastidios
H-Block 101
Union Made
The Oppressed

etc...

anybody i'm missing out on?

NewEast
20th June 2007, 15:33
The Business :rolleyes: ... Subhumans, Exploited, Sydney City Trash, Cockney Rejects...

The Business is my favourite oi! band. Fucking brilliant stuff. Nausea does a nice cover by the way, restored my faith in crusties.

seraphim
20th June 2007, 17:11
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 02:33 pm
The Business :rolleyes: ... Subhumans, Exploited, Sydney City Trash, Cockney Rejects...

The Business is my favourite oi! band. Fucking brilliant stuff. Nausea does a nice cover by the way, restored my faith in crusties.
The Subhumans are from my town which rocks. Aren't Exploited right wing?

Djehuti
20th June 2007, 17:46
Cock Sparrer, ACAB, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, 4-Skins, The Business, The Oppressed etc. Yes, there is plenty of great Oi!.

NewEast
21st June 2007, 14:26
Originally posted by seraphim+June 20, 2007 04:11 pm--> (seraphim @ June 20, 2007 04:11 pm)
[email protected] 20, 2007 02:33 pm
The Business :rolleyes: ... Subhumans, Exploited, Sydney City Trash, Cockney Rejects...

The Business is my favourite oi! band. Fucking brilliant stuff. Nausea does a nice cover by the way, restored my faith in crusties.
The Subhumans are from my town which rocks. Aren't Exploited right wing? [/b]
What??

Fuck no.

Okay, I am looking right now at four Exploited 12" next to my record player- one has a picture of Margaret Thatcher clutching to the Grim Reaper in a cemetary with the headstones reading 'Died for What?', another is entitled 'Let's Start a War (Said Maggie One Day)'- that's about the Falklands War. They sing a lot about nuclear war (Power Struggle, Computers Don't Blunder), American warfare (Fuck the USA), police brutality (Barry Prossit's Dead, Cop Cars), getting rid of the monarchy (Royalty) and so on, very right wing. Also, Wattie has been known to have violently beaten up a Neo-Nazi skinhead with a barstool.

seraphim
21st June 2007, 14:43
ok fair enough I was just led to believe that they were and 'Hitlers in the charts again' kinda reinforced that idea. Maybe I missed the point.

RedArmyFaction
23rd June 2007, 10:37
i heard that alot of oi music is right wing.

GreenAnarchist
14th August 2007, 23:20
I like



Los Fastidios
The Oppressed
Exploited
4-Skins
Razzaparte
Erode
Brigata Cani da Birra
Colonna Infame SkinHead

The last 4 are italians Oi! band, very good...



Green :AO: narchist

Saint Street Revolution
18th August 2007, 01:47
Lower Class Brats
The Oppressed
The Business
Cockney Rejects

The 4 best Oi! bands of all time.

(edit: Hey, don't blame me for reviving this, it was GreenAnarchist)

Cencus
20th August 2007, 23:53
The Angelic Upstarts are me fave Oi! band, still going strong even though Mensi's now left, red as you like too :)

The Subhumans aint Oi! they were part of the whole anarcho punk scene started by Crass. Which is still my favourite sub genre of punk.

Saint Street Revolution
21st August 2007, 17:02
Ya know on dictionary.com the definiton of Oi! is "A form of Punk Rock music, often with violent and racist lyrics" that's bullshit.

Oi! is almost always FAR, FAR left, though Racism has sprung up in the genre. We call it Nazi Punk though, not Oi.

The Exploited aren't right wing, it's just that they believe in the false anarchy that the Sex Pistols and all that used in their lyrics (Chaos, Riots, Hell on Earth) so they're not really an Anarcho-Punk band. Good band though. I don't always focus on politics in music, and the Exploited are a very good band, most Anarcho-Punks' problems with them is their lyrics, but they're just heated over nothing.

Saint Street Revolution
21st August 2007, 17:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 10:53 pm
The Angelic Upstarts are me fave Oi! band, still going strong even though Mensi's now left, red as you like too :)

The Subhumans aint Oi! they were part of the whole anarcho punk scene started by Crass. Which is still my favourite sub genre of punk.
Anarcho-Punk is more a variant of Oi! then Punk. I would call Subhumans an Oi! band.

Cencus
21st August 2007, 17:52
You are talking about the U.K. Subhumans not the Canadian band?

Anarcho-punk is most certainly not a sub-genre of Oi! For a start both genres started at about the same time.

Early anarcho bands were typified by a DIY non profit ethic gained from Crass, if you manage to get a hold of any of the early anarcho records you will see that almost all have a pay no more notice in the top right corner, a tradition started by Crass. The early Oi! bands signed up to majors asap, The Cockney Rejects & The Angelic Upstarts to EMI for example.

Oi! bands sing of police oppression, football, and generally working class life. Anarcho bands cover a vast array of subjects from animal rights and vegetarianism to nuclear energy & the enviroment.


It's nearly 30 years since Oi! and anarchopunk began but there are still differences even if there has been some crossover over the years. Still today you will be hard pushed to find a die hard Cockney Rejects fan at a Conflict gig and vice versa.

The U.K. Subhumans 1st album started recording on spiderleg records, Flux of Pink Indian's Label whose 1st album was recorded on Crass records, but only because Crass's only studio was fully booked at the time. It was finished ands released on Bluurg records, Dick Lucas the Subhumans vocalist's own label.

celtopunk
24th August 2007, 04:43
Subhumans NOT Oi, nor a sub-genre of Oi. They are great though and probably better than any Oi band, period.

Sickle of Justice
26th August 2007, 03:19
yeahhh, oi is ok, i don't take it to seriously though, the politics and that. my favorite band is by far OI POLLOI, who, to my knowledge, are true anarchists. i listen to a little Exploited, but am turned off by how stupid their lyrics tend to be. for instance, (this is almost funny) when they argued with the Crass song, Punk is Dead.

Lyrics for Punk Is Dead:

Yes that's right, punk is dead,
It's just another cheap product for the consumers head.
Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,
Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.
CBS promote the Clash,
But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.
Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be
And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.

Movements are systems and systems kill.
Movements are expressions of the public will.
Punk became a movement cos we all felt lost,
But the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost.
Punk narcissism was social napalm,
Steve Jones started doing real harm.
Preaching revolution, anarchy and change
As he sucked from the system that had given him his name.

Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass,
Tired of staring up a superstars arse,
I've got an arse and crap and a name,
I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame.
Steve Jones you're napalm,
If you're so pretty (vacant) why do you swarm?
Patti Smith you're napalm,
You write with your hand but it's Rimbaud's arm.

And me, yes I, do I want to burn?
Is there something I can learn?
Do I need a business man to promote my angle?
Can I resist the carrots that fame and fortune dangle?
I see the velvet zippies in their bondage gear,
The social elite with safety-pins in their ear,
I watch and understand that it don't mean a thing,
The scorpions might attack, but the systems stole the sting.

PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.

as apposed to this highly eloquent argument by The Exploited:


Said so near the punk is dead
Here was you a modern tend.(of tendention)
Don't let it losing don't any worse
and all cruise up tha the punk is dead

Punk's not dead i know [x4]

We're all punks and we don't care
That was price to dye our hair
Blow the trapist in your face
with about tone of noise

[Refrain x2]

It across to any law
have no fear till the day i die
We all here use just to walk around
Don't like? i'll hitchu to the ground

[Refrain x2]
Yeah!


that could be wrong... but i really don't understand what they are saying.... how do the verses relate to the title? this is an internet lyric sheet, since the version i have is on "the singles" which includes no lyrics, so, yknow, it could be wrong...

Sickle of Justice
26th August 2007, 03:21
actually, now that i think about it, those are prolly wrong. anyone have a better version?

Bazza
29th August 2007, 01:38
Originally posted by Red-star-[email protected] 27, 2007 05:48 pm
Unrelated to Oi! or Punk i think the Redskins are superb! :D
I'd class some of the Redskins early stuff as punk. 'Peasant Army' and 'Lev Bronstein' were more punk sounding than the later stuff. The band also used to cover The Clash's 'Complete Control' in fact the Redskins frontman Chris Dean played a Telecaster guitar once owned by Joe Strummer.

Saint Street Revolution
29th August 2007, 02:01
Is Los Fastidos that band that played "AntiFa Hooligans"?

OneBrickOneVoice
29th August 2007, 06:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 29, 2007 01:01 am
Is Los Fastidos that band that played "AntiFa Hooligans"?
yes and many other great songs. Actually anything they play is good. I haven't found a song by them i don't like. I thinks its cool that they mix like 3 languages into their music

Cencus
30th August 2007, 19:38
Originally posted by Red-star-[email protected] 27, 2007 05:48 pm
Groups like Combat 84 and Skrewdriver gave oi! the right wing image it so blatantly doesn't deserve.


The issue of Oi! & the far right goes back all the way to it's origins. The early Sham 69 gigs were plagued by neo-nazi salutes and violence, until the band themselves strongly condemed fascism. The idiotic title of the first Oi! ompilation " Strength Through Oi!" was hardly a condemnation of the far right support many of the bands were attracting (there really was no malice in the title just that was the title that it got other suggestions at the time included The Oi! of Sex, just blame Gary Bushell for that one.).


Indeed today there is still a large number of "non political" Oi! bands. Non political in these terms usually means saying the band themselves are niether left or right wing whilst refusing to condem racism, but dressing themselves in nationalist imagery.


Oi! spans the political spectrum from far left to far right and everything inbetween. The racist following was there from the start Skrewdriver etc just catered to a market that was already there.

Cencus
31st August 2007, 21:44
Not heard em myself but after a bit of browsing, they reformed in 2005 not much after that sorry dude :(

OneBrickOneVoice
1st September 2007, 03:40
I think I've hear of them, but haven't actually heard them

Ultra-Violence
2nd September 2007, 00:54
every one pretty much named the good shit im just goanna put empahsis on:
Lower Class Brats (love to get drunk and listen to em)
Agnostic Front (doesnt fit in the genre really but i love it anyways)

OneBrickOneVoice
2nd September 2007, 06:03
agnostic front is great

Chicom
2nd September 2007, 10:09
Oi and punk is dead

Cencus
2nd September 2007, 11:20
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 09:09 am
Oi and punk is dead
Punk aint dead it just smells like it :D

Punk won't die, not for a long time. You wouldn't believe the number of times I've heard that over eager obituary. The music press called it in 78 but there were even more punk bands in the 80s, punk went underground got rid of the trendies, and became stronger.

Comeback Kid
2nd September 2007, 12:36
Originally posted by Ultra-[email protected] 01, 2007 11:54 pm
every one pretty much named the good shit im just goanna put empahsis on:
Lower Class Brats (love to get drunk and listen to em)
Agnostic Front (doesnt fit in the genre really but i love it anyways)
AF is more punk hardcore, but they are fuckin amazin. You like Another Voice?


Oi rules. Its awsome because a bunch of them that actually come from england are West Ham fans. and West Ham Rules.

Freigemachten
2nd September 2007, 12:45
What exactly is Oi!?

Cencus
2nd September 2007, 21:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 11:45 am
What exactly is Oi!?
Oi is an offshoot of punk. Basicly remove most of the politics and replace it with songs about football, going to the pub with the lads, getting in fights, police oppression etc. add singalong chanty choruses. A lot of the Oi! bands were actually formed by members of football firms, The Cockney Rejects, West Ham, Blitz Man United etc.

The name was allegedly coined by Gary Bushell of Gonads, also NME and later The Sun, from the fact that a lot of the songs had Oi! in thier chorus. He acted as a guru for a lot of the early Oi bands, and organised a lot of the goings on in the Oi! scene.

It was regarded as more working class than punk, which was seen by some as a middle class trendy movement, all that human rights, anti nuclear stuff was just not on for the lads on council estates. Oi! also has always had a strong nationalist streak, even amongst the lefty bands.


The best idea is to see Oi! as a reaction to the the percieved infiltration of punk by the middle classes. As example The Busness "Suburban Rebels"


They're the sons and daughters of well off bankers
Tom Robinsons' army of trendy wankers
Flared blue jeans and anoracks
With yellow streaks all down their backs
Who act so tough when their on tv
But trendy wankers don't scare me

[Chorus:]
Oi!, Oi! Oi! Chosen few
This is what we think of you
Surburban rebels playing at reds
You would be urban terrorists
You don't scare us with your badges and banners
You know fuck all about heavy manners

You're the middle class kiddies from public schools
Who write the slogans on the toilet walls
Like Tony Benn's clones in plastic masks
You wave a hammer and sickle, never Union Jacks
Got lots of mouth when your in a crowd
But when your alone you don't speak loud

Blitz "someones gonna die tonight"


This is where the good times went
With his brains lying on the pavement
With a broken bottle in his hand
And another in his back

Do you feel alright?
Oi! Oi! Oi!
Someone's gonna die tonight
Oi! Oi! Oi!
Do you feel alright?
Oi! Oi! Oi!
The boys are out tonight

Was it something that he said?
Or his football scarf now stained red
Or the broken bottle in his hand
You will never understand

The Angelic Upstarts "England" *note the angelics are left wing


The red in the flag
is the blood that was spilt
in the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country been so great
The stories Britannia could tell

I never want to live my life
away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
with the scent of an English rose

England, oh England a country so great
the land of so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
the red, the white and the blue

Whenever you go to the far-off shores
there's something that goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love
that comes from your mother of red, white and blue

You could never be born under a flag
that's like the one of the Union Jack
St. George's spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

England, oh England... [5x]

T Hill Reject
4th September 2007, 10:48
One of my favourite Oi! bands is Cockney Rejects and you can see I used their name and part of town where I live to form my username on this forum. Other Oi! bands I'd like to mention are: Brigada Flores Magon and Los Fastidios which are pretty much left wing oriented bands.

celtopunk
6th September 2007, 07:16
Originally posted by Sickle of [email protected] 26, 2007 02:21 am
actually, now that i think about it, those are prolly wrong. anyone have a better version?
There are no better versions of exploited songs, just varying degrees of shitty.

celtopunk
6th September 2007, 07:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 08:03 pm

What exactly is Oi!?
Oi is an offshoot of punk. Basicly remove most of the politics and replace it with songs about football, going to the pub with the lads, getting in fights, police oppression etc. add singalong chanty choruses. A lot of the Oi! bands were actually formed by members of football firms, The Cockney Rejects, West Ham, Blitz Man United etc.

Busness "Suburban Rebels"

Blitz "someones gonna die tonight"

The Angelic Upstarts "England" *note the angelics are left wing
[/quote]
Three great examples of why Oi tends to suck really hard.

Palmares
7th September 2007, 07:18
Originally posted by NewEast+June 21, 2007 11:26 pm--> (NewEast @ June 21, 2007 11:26 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 04:11 pm

[email protected] 20, 2007 02:33 pm
The Business :rolleyes: ... Subhumans, Exploited, Sydney City Trash, Cockney Rejects...

The Business is my favourite oi! band. Fucking brilliant stuff. Nausea does a nice cover by the way, restored my faith in crusties.
The Subhumans are from my town which rocks. Aren't Exploited right wing?
What??

Fuck no.

Okay, I am looking right now at four Exploited 12" next to my record player- one has a picture of Margaret Thatcher clutching to the Grim Reaper in a cemetary with the headstones reading 'Died for What?', another is entitled 'Let's Start a War (Said Maggie One Day)'- that's about the Falklands War. They sing a lot about nuclear war (Power Struggle, Computers Don't Blunder), American warfare (Fuck the USA), police brutality (Barry Prossit's Dead, Cop Cars), getting rid of the monarchy (Royalty) and so on, very right wing. Also, Wattie has been known to have violently beaten up a Neo-Nazi skinhead with a barstool. [/b]
Perhaps you should read the many topics in this forum about whether Wattie is a nazi and about his beef with Jello Biafra.

Irrespective of whether he is a nazi or not, he is racist (he appears not to like 'pakis') and is a complete twat.

Jay Moksha
7th September 2007, 07:39
:) The F.A.C.T (fight against city terrorism) which is the local band from my hometown malaysia....hahahhaha... :ph34r:

Sickle of Justice
19th September 2007, 23:54
The best example of an Oi! band EVER is OI POLLOI. End of story. they're leftist, millitant antifaschists, and a great band all around.

Oi! to me is much like the working class. at its best it is a sort of "for us by us" empowerment, fusing a defiance against the bourgousie with a simplistic but honest style of music.

At its worst it can include a lot of ignorant knuckleheads who run around beating people up for no reason.

Cencus
20th September 2007, 16:09
Originally posted by Sickle of [email protected] 19, 2007 10:54 pm
The best example of an Oi! band EVER is OI POLLOI. End of story. they're leftist, millitant antifaschists, and a great band all around.

Oi! to me is much like the working class. at its best it is a sort of "for us by us" empowerment, fusing a defiance against the bourgousie with a simplistic but honest style of music.

At its worst it can include a lot of ignorant knuckleheads who run around beating people up for no reason.
Oi Polloi are an anarcho band even if the name suggests different. You won't find many Oi! boys at thier gigs just anarchos, indded Oi Polloi gigged a lot with Conflict in the 80s til they had a major falling out.

Used to go hunt sabbing with Deek back in the 80s.

And as for them being working class in origin, the band was formed at Daniel Stewarts, a rather posh private school in Edinburgh.

Anarcho punk bands

Crass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYp9AjtHTT8

Conflict
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbCeagk4NI

Subhumans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWvjUPI_JeA

Oi Polloi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjAGoYz2to

Oi! bands

Cockney rejects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50xjjzzfls

The Bussiness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cryfFKjdaYo

Angelic upstarts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uOAs1v75XI

Sickle of Justice
27th September 2007, 21:28
oi polloi is both. they're definitely anarcho, but they're OI too at times.

and you left out Flux Of Pink Indians

IcarusAngel
27th September 2007, 22:37
Is the business apolitical?

I can't say I disagree with the recommendations here. Esp. Angelic Upstarts, been a fan of them for years:

I won’t pay for liberty, I think it should be free.
You always want to take so much, but you won’t be taking me.
You won’t be taking me.

Cencus
28th September 2007, 18:08
The Business are apolitical afaik. There are stories of them having far right members in the past, I've seen no evidence of this[haven't looked too hard as I'm not a big Oi! fan], so it stays as another one on the 5000000 rumours on the punk scene, that is either best to ignore or dig into.


oi polloi is both. they're definitely anarcho, but they're OI too at times.

You folks on here are the 1st ever heard of assosiating Oi Polloi with Oi, I'll ask Deek, next time I bump into him, where he sees his band in the punk scene.


and you left out Flux Of Pink Indians

I was just chuckin up some examples to show the differences between anarcho and Oi!

celtopunk
29th September 2007, 06:01
Originally posted by Sickle of [email protected] 27, 2007 08:28 pm
oi polloi is both. they're definitely anarcho, but they're OI too at times.

and you left out Flux Of Pink Indians
I can't say I've heard every one of their songs, but they never struck me as an Oi band either.

Bazza
30th September 2007, 13:52
Originally posted by Red-star-[email protected] 31, 2007 06:29 pm
This is a bit of a long shot but does anybody know the group S*M*A*S*H?

They played with Billy Bragg at the anti-nazi rally on a flat bed truck through london...

They were a trio punk group in the early 90's and done a song called 'i wanna kill somebody reffering to members of Thatchers Tory govrnment :lol:
I know S*M*A*S*H they were part of the nwonw scene along with These Animal Men. Both great bands.

I don't suppose that you have a tape of that gig that S*M*A*S*H did with Billy Bragg.? I've been after a copy as they covered a Redskins track. I know that Billy Bragg has a copy but he won't give me a copy of it. :(

Bazza
30th September 2007, 13:54
There's some top left wing oi bands on the This Is Rash album which came out this year. -

http://www.cdbaby.com/thisisrash

Red_Hooligan
8th October 2007, 04:01
Oi Polloi had a song called "Commies and Nazis", I believe. Compared socialist and leftist skins and punks to fucking fascists. Haven't gave the band a chance since I heard that nonsense.

heavymanners
14th October 2007, 03:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 05:08 pm
The Business are apolitical afaik. There are stories of them having far right members in the past, I've seen no evidence of this[haven't looked too hard as I'm not a big Oi! fan], so it stays as another one on the 5000000 rumours on the punk scene, that is either best to ignore or dig into.


oi polloi is both. they're definitely anarcho, but they're OI too at times.

You folks on here are the 1st ever heard of assosiating Oi Polloi with Oi, I'll ask Deek, next time I bump into him, where he sees his band in the punk scene.


and you left out Flux Of Pink Indians

I was just chuckin up some examples to show the differences between anarcho and Oi!
Deek is pretty much a beardie, vegan hippy when it comes down to it, though he does like some oi bands. Most of Oi Polloi's music has been metallish hardcore for years now.

Anyone ever see the Jockney Rejects, the Cockney Rejects tribute/satire he did? Pretty funny stuff.

jaffe
17th October 2007, 15:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 03:01 am
Oi Polloi had a song called "Commies and Nazis", I believe. Compared socialist and leftist skins and punks to fucking fascists. Haven't gave the band a chance since I heard that nonsense.
interview with oi polloi (http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/oipolloi.html)

- What about people who promote LENIN, STALIN or MAO, instead of HITLER?

- Anyone who's interested in Communism should read about what the bastards got up to in the Spanish Civil War and how they put down the Kronstadt uprising in the Russian Civil War - quite a sickening tale. FUCK THOSE BASTARDS! Just listen to our song 'COMMIES AND NAZIS' off 'UNITE + WIN' to see where we stand on that one.

Palmares
18th October 2007, 16:01
Originally posted by heavymanners+October 14, 2007 12:40 pm--> (heavymanners @ October 14, 2007 12:40 pm)
[email protected] 28, 2007 05:08 pm
The Business are apolitical afaik. There are stories of them having far right members in the past, I've seen no evidence of this[haven't looked too hard as I'm not a big Oi! fan], so it stays as another one on the 5000000 rumours on the punk scene, that is either best to ignore or dig into.


oi polloi is both. they're definitely anarcho, but they're OI too at times.

You folks on here are the 1st ever heard of assosiating Oi Polloi with Oi, I'll ask Deek, next time I bump into him, where he sees his band in the punk scene.


and you left out Flux Of Pink Indians

I was just chuckin up some examples to show the differences between anarcho and Oi!
Deek is pretty much a beardie, vegan hippy when it comes down to it, though he does like some oi bands. Most of Oi Polloi's music has been metallish hardcore for years now.

Anyone ever see the Jockney Rejects, the Cockney Rejects tribute/satire he did? Pretty funny stuff. [/b]
I would agree that most of Oi Polloi's releases for the last while have been more similar to hardcore (or crust?) influenced punk, rather than oi. Though, their style seems to change records to record, the stable oi sound is reserved for their early releases.

And Deek a hippy? If he is a hippy, then we need more of them in the world. His endevours with OI Polloi has proven his long stadning commitment to social change.

jaffe
18th October 2007, 19:25
indeed

a few oi band that i listen to are
angelic upstarts/infa-riot/brigade flores magon/old dropick murphys/
oi polloi/ crux

Nique la police
25th October 2007, 05:07
this is a bit off topic but since most punk bands are anti-corporation why do a ton of punks smoke cigirettes? Cig companys have got to be one of the biggest corporations around. Smoke weed and put those fuckers out of buisness.

Sickle of Justice
25th October 2007, 22:43
i agree wholeheartedly. but nonetheless, cigarettes are addictive. a lot of punks get into the image of punk before they get into the political side, and unfortuanately smoking fits that image. since they get addicted before they get political, a lot of political punkers smoke, but most are trying to quit.

Ander
26th October 2007, 02:18
This is a bit of a long shot but does anybody know the group S*M*A*S*H?

If they are the band I'm thinking about, I read about them in a book about punk. Apparently they made a video where a model of Thatcher gets its head blown off?

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Partisans yet. They are probably one of my favourite Oi! bands. The Bruisers, while American, were also pretty good.

As for the Business (who I love), check out these lyrics from Suburban Rebels:

You're the middle class kiddies from public schools
Who write the slogans on the toilet walls
Like Tony Benn's clones in plastic masks
You wave a hammer and sickle, never Union Jacks

Louis Pio
26th October 2007, 11:49
Partisans are great, I also have a soft spot for Sham 69

bluescouse
2nd November 2007, 00:23
Originally posted by Cencus+September 20, 2007 03:09 pm--> (Cencus @ September 20, 2007 03:09 pm)
Sickle of [email protected] 19, 2007 10:54 pm
The best example of an Oi! band EVER is OI POLLOI. End of story. they're leftist, millitant antifaschists, and a great band all around.

Oi! to me is much like the working class. at its best it is a sort of "for us by us" empowerment, fusing a defiance against the bourgousie with a simplistic but honest style of music.

At its worst it can include a lot of ignorant knuckleheads who run around beating people up for no reason.
Oi Polloi are an anarcho band even if the name suggests different. You won't find many Oi! boys at thier gigs just anarchos, indded Oi Polloi gigged a lot with Conflict in the 80s til they had a major falling out.

Used to go hunt sabbing with Deek back in the 80s.

And as for them being working class in origin, the band was formed at Daniel Stewarts, a rather posh private school in Edinburgh.

Anarcho punk bands

Crass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYp9AjtHTT8

Conflict
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbCeagk4NI

Subhumans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWvjUPI_JeA

Oi Polloi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjAGoYz2to

Oi! bands

Cockney rejects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50xjjzzfls

The Bussiness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cryfFKjdaYo

Angelic upstarts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uOAs1v75XI [/b]
Aren't the Angelic Upstarts members of the Communist Party? They are one of the bands on, The fear of a Red Planet CD, a fundraiser for the Morning Star.

Cencus
2nd November 2007, 12:13
Yup, The Angelics are left wing.