Proletariats in Australia

[ely]

A warm hello from Australia; where we are counting the months to a small but significant revolution and the removal of our current Prime Minister, John Howard. I'm 33, passionate about Orwell, and increasingly hopeful. Nice to be here.

[luxemburg89]

Hey there, yeah loads of us on here like Orwell too. He's brilliant but not my favourite. Anyway enjoy posting, and welcome to the site.

Lux :D

[Raúl Duke]

Hi, welcome :)

Good Luck on removing J Howard.

[Mujer Libre]

Hey- nice to see another Australian here. :)

Also good to hear you're feeling hopeful- we need more people with energy and positiveness. Are you involved with any groups/orgs at all? (Don't worry- I'm not recruiting, just curious!) :P

[Bilan]

Good to see some more Australians on here. :)
Im from Aus. too!

[ely]

Thanks for the welcome!

And great to know there are Aussies on here too. I am not part of any organisations but am always wanting to find out more.

[chebol]

There's plenty of us around, if you have any Qs...

Where in Oz are ya?

[NewEast]

Rudd? A revolution? :lol: A revolution in boredom.

[chebol]

Actually, worse than boredom. Rudd is trying his hardest to wedge Howard from the right.

If Rudd is gonna lead a revolution, Keating was an ultra-left!

[ely]

Down with Howard. The opposition is shocking I agree. The one advantage is the very first moment of a new government when they are eager and determined after victory. A government becomes arrogant and lethargic after decades in office. "Left" or Right in Australia at the moment, look at our states.

[bombeverything]

Welcome to the board :).

Now I don't want to be cynical but do you believe Rudd will win the election? This question goes out to everyone in this thread. I know there is no real way of knowing, but I believe Rudd has managed to piss everyone off. Not that it would make much difference either way.

The Labour party will not get rid of the I.R legislation. Rudd met Rupert Murdoch. Apparently, people making $250,000 and less are struggling. Yeah to maintain a filthy privileged lifestyle. It must be oh so hard. And then sacking a unionist for *shock* threatening to defend workers against greedy bosses. The ALP officially considers a belief in class struggle to be "old school". I shouldn't be surprised.

Just some things that come to mind.

Would be funny if we weren't talking about the people running the country.

[Bilan]

It doesn't matter if Rudd wins, he's just as much an authoritarian twat as Howard. He'll still represent the interests of the ruling class.

The vote changes nothing.

[ely]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 06:32 am

Would be funny if we weren't talking about the people running the country.
For sure.

I do think Rudd will win this year, despite his cock-ups. Howard always manages to pull the rednecks in at the last minute so I wonder what his fear campaign will be this year??? I think the nation is tired of the arrogance of the current government, so it is not so much a vote for Rudd, as a vote against a government who has been in power for over a decade.

I agree that Rudd is a substitute for the Right. A recent example being his wife's company underpaying it's workers and the only change was forced due to negative media exposure. Without that, underpayment of workers would have continued on unchallenged.

The advantage I see in Howards defeat however would be ideally a very strong backlash against him at the polls. This is not necessarily a vote for Rudd. I would see it as an expression of our nations disgust with the current government, and a desire for change. This would make the new government cautious initially, and therefore receptive to community pressure, for a very small period of time immediately after Howard's defeat. As per the negative media exposure that led to corrective actions of the underpaying of employment network consultants.

I see it as a defeat of a conceited government who have been in for over a decade. There is a small window of opportunity with any new government, when they are vulnerable after victory, and change can truly occur. Once that window is closed, we must fight on however, as per Howards rule, because Rudd's rule will not be Left.

[Hiero]

Labor is very counter-revolutionary. Look at how they act to a slight bit of militancy in the unions. One union leader was recently fired for simply defending his right to visit union members on the work site. And how does Labor react, they revoke his membership of the Labor party.

[ely]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 04:49 pm
Labor is very counter-revolutionary. Look at how they act to a slight bit of militancy in the unions. One union leader was recently fired for simply defending his right to visit union members on the work site. And how does Labor react, they revoke his membership of the Labor party.
Outrageous. And who brings that to account? Trial by media indicates most people support Labor throwing him out of the party. Liberal aren't going to challenge this move; so who does?

[bombeverything]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 09:50 pm
Outrageous. And who brings that to account? Trial by media indicates most people support Labor throwing him out of the party. Liberal aren't going to challenge this move; so who does?

Us ;).

But certainly not through parliamentary means. That will not achieve a thing as, I believe, the above posts have shown.

[RedArmyFaction]

I'd like to vist oz someday but there's too much racism there. When i think of Australia i think of the film "romper stomper" and nazi groups. Still.........oz has beautiful landscapes.

[apathy maybe]

Aus/NZ thread. I just bumped the thing so it should be obvious.

I don't know if I'll be in Aus for the election, but I'm not voting.

Anyway, welcome to the board.

(Oh and wait, ANARCHISTS HAVE MORE FUN!)

[Palmares]

Theres an election happening? How unfortunate if i miss it... ;)

[Comrade Nadezhda]

Welcome to Revleft!

[StealthyCat]

It would be great, though, if Maxine McKew won Bennelong.

Kevin Rudd is kind of a twat, but I feel like anything would be better than the Generalissimo.