National Socialism...

[yns_mr]

How did Hitler's socialism (national socialism) use to process? What was the point that distinguishes it from the socialism we know? My question is about economy not society. I know too much about the sociological aspect of the Hitler's Germany...

[Vargha Poralli]

There is nothing socialism except for name.


Originally posted by "yns_mr"
My question is about economy not society

It is not a big fuss. It is plain capitalism with working class backbone crushed.

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 09:02 am
How did Hitler's socialism (national socialism) use to process? What was the point that distinguishes it from the socialism we know? My question is about economy not society. I know too much about the sociological aspect of the Hitler's Germany...
In Belgium the name for such a movement was national-solidarism. It is based upon corporatism. all classes work together to build up a strong capitalist nation. The one who gain are middle class people and certainly capitalists.

[An archist]

^Yup, also, it strongly denounces unions and the class struggle, because they divide the people into different classes and aren't good for the country (the country's elite that is).

EDIT: yesterday I had a question on my history exam about the difference between socialism and national socialism, boy what a dream question :D

[A-S M.]

pretty much the same as what I see in today's society ^^

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by A-S [email protected] 16, 2007 10:21 am
pretty much the same as what I see in today's society ^^
Well, no because the trade union bureaucracy does talk with employers, but they don't necesairly have to. Under corporatism their are no trade unions like this, because both employers and workers sit togehter in one movement.

[Janus]

My question is about economy not society
The economy was corporatist but also influenced by Keynesian economics. However, Hitler did smash trade unions, ignored the existing wealth disparity, and of course repressed communists, anarchists, and socialists.

Previous threads:
national socialism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=58444&hl=+national++socialism)
National Socialism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=43284&hl=%20national%20%20socialism&st=25)

[abbielives!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 09:02 am
How did Hitler's socialism (national socialism) use to process? What was the point that distinguishes it from the socialism we know? My question is about economy not society. I know too much about the sociological aspect of the Hitler's Germany...

i dont understand your fisrst question, but "national socialism" can be distingushed by the fact that there is no redistribution of wealth and also because of its undemocratic structure and ownership over the means of prodiction is still basically private. hitler bacisally used the word socialism to attract support from the working class.

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 06:58 pm

My question is about economy not society
The economy was corporatist but also influenced by Keynesian economics. However, Hitler did smash trade unions, ignored the existing wealth disparity, and of course repressed communists, anarchists, and socialists.

Previous threads:
national socialism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=58444&hl=+national++socialism)
National Socialism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=43284&hl=%20national%20%20socialism&st=25)
Nazis emphasized "work" as an abstract ideal, and teached submission to the state (a volk-state which is an agent for the alleged collective interests of the dominant ethnic group in the state). Thus, one could say that Nazis borrowed heavily from Right Hegelians and utopian socialists, but that their state in it's essence was a corporatist-capitalist model.

[Ol' Dirty]

g.ram is right. The Nazi party was really only nominaly socialist, if you used the definition we use on the board. Hitler was economicaly believed pretty strongly in economic interdependence, but was strongly against nonconformism.

These sites should help:

www.politcalcompass.org
www.moral-politics.com

[Purple]

Socialism was a very attractive word that attracted a lot of workers. Considering that they were emerging from a time with a defunct government, severe economic problems, and fucked working class soldiers that came out from the first world war being pissed about the government for their incompetence, all while the upper classes were having a jolly good time. An ideology that promoted the leadership of the lower classes, instead of the continous rule of the idiot upper classes. A lot of business owners were Jews, hence a partial explanation for their view on them, and also, relating to this board, the Jews were the leaders of the Marxist movements within Germany at the time, making them easy targets.

[Morello]

Hitler used the word Socialist in the Nazi Party name to get people who didn't know about politics to help him get the election, then soon declare himself dictator. There's nothing Socialist about Nazis. Nazis are foul, totalitarian people who I would be ashamed to stand by in a Socialist revolution.