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BobKKKindle$
14th June 2007, 19:15
How should leftists and feminists who want to establish abortion rights for every women organise, and what temporary solutions can be provided in countries where abortion is banned? Although we all have a clear position on this issue it is clear that we must actually engage in practical agitation in order to ensure that all women can access abortions - how should we go about doing so?

I have recently been reading about the difficulties that women have faced in trade union organisations when the have tried to ensure that their fellow members - especially men - recognize the importance of abortion and how limited access to abortion affects working class women. In Socialist Worker Angela Phillips, a notable abortion activist, wrote about her experiences in 1979 :

"I was an activist in the National Union of Journalists and in the National Abortion Campaign (NAC). A group of us went to raise the issue at a TUC meeting, but the union leaders wouldn’t let us speak. Ken Gill was in the chair. He was a longstanding leader of the engineering union and a Communist Party member. He wouldn’t let us open our mouths."

Is this still a common situation within Leftist organisations such as trade Unions? Do any comrades here have experiences like this?

I am particuarly interested to hear the opinion of Anarchists on this issue - would you oppose participation in existing political institutions and processes such as elections in order to try and change laws relating to abortion? I ask because, from what I know, Anarchists feel that doing so legitimises the state.

Black Dagger
15th June 2007, 16:19
Originally posted by bk
I am particuarly interested to hear the opinion of Anarchists on this issue - would you oppose participation in existing political institutions and processes such as elections in order to try and change laws relating to abortion? I ask because, from what I know, Anarchists feel that doing so legitimises the state.

Of course anarchists want abortions rights! (though no doubt there are/has been some reactionary anti-choice 'anarchists')

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They're absolutely vital in the struggle to destroy this patriarchal society. If this struggle requires 'participating' in existing political institutions then so be it; that doesn't mean that patriarchy or capitalism is going to be destroyed simply by working within the existing political instutions, that's a dead end - liberalism. Rather, securing abortion rights (that is, abortion on demand) is a significant stepping-stone in the broader resistance to patriarchy, capitalism and so forth. We want to abolish the state, but that doesn't mean we'll settle for patriarchal law in the mean time!

TC
17th June 2007, 16:20
How should leftists and feminists who want to establish abortion rights for every women organise,

I don't think any unique form of organisation is necessary, existing organisations should oppose any new or existing restrictions on abortion, attempts to discriminate against teenagers with regard to abortion (which is a popular method for the right in the Untied States), and any attempts to establish a legal status of fetuses as persons with regard to non-abortion related injuries or death (another tactic common among the american right).



and what temporary solutions can be provided in countries where abortion is banned?

I think medical-activist organizations who provide safe but extra-legal abortions in countries were its banned are quite good.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3592718.stm
http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-1020.1211-en.html

But that takes a lot of resources though and can only help a small portion of people who need them... providing information on cheap, easily booked transport to countries where abortion is legal, and information on how to get one once there, is a good way to go.

Maybe someone should start a charitable fund to finance them.



Although we all have a clear position on this issue it is clear that we must actually engage in practical agitation in order to ensure that all women can access abortions - how should we go about doing so?


We need to shift the debate away from the status of fetuses as persons, which is irrelevant, to the status of women as persons. Most of the pro-choice arguments, as i've argued elsewhere, are actually somewhat weak even though much stronger arguments exist, and they're weakened by the fact that they tend to concentrate too much on the fetuses status.

It needs to be recognized that, even if a fetus were a person with normal rights, a person's 'right to life' is never given priority over another person's right to bodily autonomy (you can't steal someone's kidney to preserve your 'right to life', for instance), so it doesn't matter whether or not a fetus is a person or not.