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Tower of Bebel
5th June 2007, 17:34
A few weeks ago the CP of Russia protested against the rights of gays. Just like last year. Now they joined with the orthodox church, yet the church was seen with neo-nazi's at the protest against the gay parade the previous year.

Why is the CP against gay rights, gay parades, etc? Has it something to do with revisionism?

Redmau5
5th June 2007, 17:35
Because they aren't communists.

Kwisatz Haderach
5th June 2007, 18:13
First of all, as Makaveli pointed out, they are not communists. They are in fact social democrats.

Second, it's simply a matter of political opportunism. The vast majority of people in Russia are highly homophobic. Therefore, if your party is also visibly homophobic, you win more popular support.

Janus
5th June 2007, 20:14
Why is the CP against gay rights, gay parades, etc?
Same reason they hold anti-immigrant views: to get more votes. Simply put, they're not communists but rather nationalists with a tinge of democratic socialism.

OneBrickOneVoice
6th June 2007, 01:24
Probably because they view it as bourgeois decadence. Lots of parties did this and it is still a struggle among communist parties that we can overcome this line, particularly in very socially conservative parts of the world. They claimed that there were no homosexuals in socialist societies and thus homosexuality came from the bourgeois family structure.

Tower of Bebel
6th June 2007, 07:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 07:14 pm

Why is the CP against gay rights, gay parades, etc?
Same reason they hold anti-immigrant views: to get more votes. Simply put, they're not communists but rather nationalists with a tinge of democratic socialism.
And the same party let's it's people walk with pictures of Lenin and Stalin during marches and demos? Insane.

Black Dagger
6th June 2007, 07:34
Originally posted by Light Up The Sky!@June 06, 2007 10:24 am
Probably because they view it as bourgeois decadence. Lots of parties did this and it is still a struggle among communist parties that we can overcome this line, particularly in very socially conservative parts of the world. They claimed that there were no homosexuals in socialist societies and thus homosexuality came from the bourgeois family structure.
It's not really a struggle among communist parties; because the parties who hold this line usually aren't communist.

Luís Henrique
6th June 2007, 18:33
Because the party is a nationalist party, not a communist one (and, no, I don't think it is reasonable to say that they are social-democratic). Because Russia used to be a great power, but this position has been dramatically shaken. Because at the time Russia was a great power, it was also a repressive dictatorship that forbade people from expressing their sexuality in certain ways (which included homosexuality). Because this people the impression that there was no homosexuality in Russia at the time it was a great power. And thence the fact that Russia's decadence as a great power chronologically coincides with the end of repression against homosexuals, a link is stablished between homosexuality and decadence: homosexuality is a perversion that causes Russia to sink into underdevelopment. And since there was no homosexuality in Russia in the past (if you can't see it, it means it doesn't exist), homosexuality was imported from abroad. In fact, it was sent there by the Americans, to the end of destroying mighty Russia.

Do you now want to know where the Jews fit into the scheme?

Luís Henrique

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