Penn & Teller: BS

[Psy]

I watched the Wal-Mart ep and I can understand how anyone can believe this BS. They actually defended sweat-shop labor saying it is better the substance farming, and defended child labor saying it keeps them off the streets.

They also say said Wal-Mart revitalizes areas where industry moved away but can't notice that capitalism caused the industry to close in the first place.

[Kurt Crover]

well I'm from the United Kingdom, and I'm not really familiar with Penn and Teller, aren't they the guys that do magic? And got parodied on the Simpsons? Funny you should say Wal-Mart:

Not far from where I live there is construction for an ASDA supermarket (which is owned by Wal-Mart) and it's going to be built at the expense of many local businesses that have been shut down because this supermarket will be built right in front of them. The construction companies have had to dig up the road infront, which had a bus station on it, which has now become a series of small temporary stops which are confusing for many people including the elderly which shop here regularly.

[Edgar]

Yep, Penn and Teller are a couple of arrogant libertarian types.

[Cult of Reason]

Some of the episodes are fun though. Self-Helpless is especially good.

[Friedrich Nietzsche]

<.<...I love Penn & Teller. Easily the best show on TV. Might not agree with them...but damn it&#39;s funny.

[Oedipus Complex]

I agree with their views on religion, environment (mostly), and social views. However, I vehemently disagree with their economic views, but they are still pretty funny.

[Genosse Kotze]

I just saw the Wal-Mart one and damn&#33; Do you remeber their magic special several years ago, where they both shot eachother in the mouth but caught the bullet between their teeth? Bummer.

[Angry Young Man]

I agree with their views on

I&#39;m gonna be weird here.


religion
If they&#39;re libertarians, wouldn&#39;t they say religion&#39;s ok and anyone can join any religion?


environment (mostly)
For the same reason, wouldn&#39;t they be ok with wholesale destruction of it for private gain?


social views
Even though their system necessitates huge wealth inequalities with absolutely no means of helping the poor except by charity. Also, they don&#39;t believe that there is a class system inherent in capitalism. Wealth gaps do not qualify as class structure. Ergo, rather than being actively helped (positive freedom), they are merely not hindered (negative.)

Sorry to piss on your chips there, old love.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

The fat one describes himself as an anarcho capitalist apparently. He also disses socialism all the time. So, basically he can go fuck himself.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

If they&#39;re libertarians, wouldn&#39;t they say religion&#39;s ok and anyone can join any religion?
What&#39;s wrong with that?

[Angry Young Man]

They may decide to join the Jovies or the Silver Ring Thing. (though not an actual religion).

If people are liberal about religion, then you&#39;re giving people the liberty to sell their liberty to who they choose.

Pretty much the problem with libertarians. They crap on about self-ownership, yet all that means is that they can sell themselves to whomever they choose.

[praxis1966]

Originally posted by Romantic [email protected] 17, 2007 02:15 pm
They may decide to join the Jovies or the Silver Ring Thing. (though not an actual religion).

If people are liberal about religion, then you&#39;re giving people the liberty to sell their liberty to who they choose.

Pretty much the problem with libertarians. They crap on about self-ownership, yet all that means is that they can sell themselves to whomever they choose.
Or buy whomever they choose. After all, libertarianism entails having an unchecked and completely unregulated economy, which in turn only leads to the freedom by one social class to exploit everyone else.