Eminent domain

[Ol' Dirty]

I recently had a panel discussion with people in my class, and I would like to hear what people on revleft think about a state taking private property for public use. If you are an anarchist, would you support an autonomous workers collective/polity taking away stuff from one person to give to everybody to use free?

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Well, all land would be public property under socialism to begin with... and the same goes for all the means of production. There would still be personal property, of course, but personal property consists of things that have little or no public use (such as your clothes, for example).

Thus, I see no reason why a socialist society might need eminent domain. Everything that can be put to public use is already put to public use to begin with.

[cubist]

Land as far as i see is the peoples and shouldn't be bought or sold,

but this is only the case in socialism as we know

[Leo]

I think that this belongs to theory so I am moving it. Please send me a pm if there are any objections.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

In Cuba there exists private property and I see no problem with it in that limited context. Land and goods that cannot be or are not used as capital and can be afforded to all members of a society should be personal and an individual's right to have and use it should be protected. So yes, imminent domain in socialism and communism will exist and the state or whatever governing body will surely have the ability to expropriate private land for its needs.

[*mac_capital*]

when you think socialism it is also socialism of the banking system. therefore every property although may be owned privately is also owned by the bank which is publicly owned. so that the interest/profit from private property sales/morgages goes to the whole of society for the benefit of all. when it comes to eminent domain the private property is also part of the public property and if the municipality or state can prove that it is to the publics benefit they should pay the private owner what they have paid into the morgage and the any inconvience fee . then if the person decides to buy more private property they borrow from the socailist public bank the interst paid again goes to the common good. so under socialism private property is already public because they borrowed the money off of the public capital pool via the public bank. under this system there could also be an eminent domain clause built into the morgage.

[MarxSchmarx]

Originally posted by *mac_capital*@June 07, 2007 07:21 pm
so under socialism private property is already public because they borrowed the money off of the public capital pool via the public bank. under this system there could also be an eminent domain clause built into the morgage.
What if the mortgage is paid off?

[Black Cross]

Originally posted by MarxSchmarx+June 24, 2007 07:03 am--> (MarxSchmarx @ June 24, 2007 07:03 am)
*mac_capital*@June 07, 2007 07:21 pm
so under socialism private property is already public because they borrowed the money off of the public capital pool via the public bank. under this system there could also be an eminent domain clause built into the morgage.
What if the mortgage is paid off?[/b]
Haha, that's interesting. I'm sure you would just get reimbursed for it since you payed that money for nothing.

[CornetJoyce]

I fight in red for the same reasons that Garibaldi chose the red shirt


Actually, Garibaldi chose red shirts because they were free or cheap. They had been made for the butchers of Argentina and then Argentina invaded Uruguay and the Uruguayan merchant had them on his hands. What Garibaldi chose was insurrection everywhere and anywhere. July 4th is his 200th birthday.