State and the Communist society

[Eleftherios]

While I have read Marx and know that no state is supposed to exist in a Communist society because the state's primary function is to protect the interests of the ruling class, it seems hard to believe that there will be absolutely no central authority in Communism to direct large projects such as space programs, city planning, and the construction of large buildings.

[Rawthentic]

There will be planning committees, people's assemblies, etc.

[Janus]

it seems hard to believe that there will be absolutely no central authority in Communism to direct large projects such as space programs, city planning, and the construction of large buildings.
City planning and construction can be dealt with at local/online meetings and assemblies. Something larger such as a space program will require much greater debate and would probably require a much more encompassing meeting or assembly.

[Eleftherios]

Thanks for clearing that up

[Whitten]

Also keep in mind that Marx used the word "state" to have a very specific meaning, and be independent of law making bodies, civil organisation and even governments.

[KC]

Also keep in mind that Marx used the word "state" to have a very specific meaning, and be independent of law making bodies, civil organisation and even governments.

All of those are part of the bourgeois state apparatus.


While I have read Marx and know that no state is supposed to exist in a Communist society because the state's primary function is to protect the interests of the ruling class, it seems hard to believe that there will be absolutely no central authority in Communism to direct large projects such as space programs, city planning, and the construction of large buildings.

Generally these things will be organized by members of the community that it will affect, or volunteers from other communities.

[Whitten]

All of those are part of the bourgeois state apparatus.

No they are not. Organised and civil society =/= state

[Lenin II]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 12:02 am
While I have read Marx and know that no state is supposed to exist in a Communist society because the state's primary function is to protect the interests of the ruling class, it seems hard to believe that there will be absolutely no central authority in Communism to direct large projects such as space programs, city planning, and the construction of large buildings.
Admittingly, it is hard to predict what the ultimate "true" communist society will look like. But simply because there is no state does not mean there are no regulations or authority. After all, communism is a democracy. Decisions will be made by the people's assembly and labor unions.

[KC]

No they are not. Organised and civil society =/= state

I assumed they were talking about governmentally sponsored civil organizations. Anyways, law making bodies and government certainly are part of the state.


Admittingly, it is hard to predict what the ultimate "true" communist society will look like. But simply because there is no state does not mean there are no regulations or authority. After all, communism is a democracy. Decisions will be made by the people's assembly and labor unions.


No it isn't.

[Lenin II]

No it isn't.
It is democratic to some extent. Workers can elect their immediate bosses, and though it may be a dictatorship of the proletariat, the masses will make decisions on large construction projects, as well as the vanguard party which will use methods of democratic centralism.