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anomee
1st June 2007, 03:52
Why Is There So Little Mention of Paraguay in Here?
Paraguay is where a lot of stuff happening and has been going on for awhile.
If somebody doesn't get in there and do something... there isn't going to be much in or of SA to be had by the people of SA.
The families of George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are reported to have bought up at least 300,000 acres on the aquifer in Paraguay that is the biggest in SA and one of the biggest in the world.
The next and coming crisis is going to be a shortage of potable water worldwide.
Who owns the water, corn, sugar and soy -- all of which need water to grow -- along with the fuel owns and controls the world.
Bush-Cheney and Big Oil already have the major share and control of the world's fossil fuels and they want to corner the market on corn and sugar from which alternative fuels can be made.
The leader and people of Paraguay need to move to take control of and hold onto their resources now before it's too late.
BTW there is a nearby air base there in Paraguay built by Americans in the 80s still in in perfect condition by last accounts, and waaaaay too big for the Paraguayan air force and planes, ripe for another giant base of operations for US troops.
Take me seriously or don't, but at least I'm getting the info out here, wherever this is in actuality and the meme is going out to possibly someone who can maybe do something about it.
PS I love my country, but hate the current administration of our government.
Severian
1st June 2007, 05:27
Originally posted by
[email protected] 31, 2007 08:52 pm
Why Is There So Little Mention of Paraguay in Here?
Maybe because there aren't a lot of people from Paraguay on here, it hasn't been in the news a lot.
So thanks for posting about it. I agree that control of natural resources is important. And working people, in countries under imperialist domination, should demand that natural resources and major industries be nationalized or otherwise taken out of imperialist control.
If you have sources on some of the specific facts, that'd be good. I do tend to be a little sceptical on the emphasis some people place on the personal and family business dealings of Bush, Cheney, etc. Their families are relatively small players in the U.S. upper class. They politically represent and serve much bigger business interests. As do the Democrats, by the way.
If you have anything to contribute about the struggles and organizing of working people in Paraguay, I think that'd be even more welcome. Exploitation is everywhere - resistance unfortunately is not. And one thing working people today seem to need most is examples and inspiration that it is possible to fight back; and that there is a better alternative to the current world economic order.
Spirit of Spartacus
1st June 2007, 22:00
Why Is There So Little Mention of Paraguay in Here?
Its because, as Severian said, we don't have many people from Paraguay on this forum. Now that you're here, please keep us regularly updated.
Capitalism today is based on the imperialist exploitation of countries like Paraguay. Capitalism is imperialism, in more ways than one.
Any blow struck at the forces of imperialism or its lackeys in the third-world is a victory for all of us.
Paraguay is where a lot of stuff happening and has been going on for awhile.
Tell us!
For the working-people of the world, this is a dark time of intense struggle and terrible trials. Historically, in my view, the forces of oppression are stronger and more globalized than ever before.
If somebody doesn't get in there and do something... there isn't going to be much in or of SA to be had by the people of SA.
The families of George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are reported to have bought up at least 300,000 acres on the aquifer in Paraguay that is the biggest in SA and one of the biggest in the world.
The next and coming crisis is going to be a shortage of potable water worldwide.
Who owns the water, corn, sugar and soy -- all of which need water to grow -- along with the fuel owns and controls the world.
Bush-Cheney and Big Oil already have the major share and control of the world's fossil fuels and they want to corner the market on corn and sugar from which alternative fuels can be made.
The leader and people of Paraguay need to move to take control of and hold onto their resources now before it's too late.
I believe Fidel wrote about this too, recently, didn't he?
It really is utterly disgusting, this imperialist rush to gather vital resources.
BTW there is a nearby air base there in Paraguay built by Americans in the 80s still in in perfect condition by last accounts, and waaaaay too big for the Paraguayan air force and planes, ripe for another giant base of operations for US troops.
You're from Paraguay, eh? Comrade, I'm surprised you don't just explode with what the Americans have in mind for the water supply in South America.
I believe that base has a direct link to their designs on the aquifer region in Paraguay.
Take me seriously or don't, but at least I'm getting the info out here, wherever this is in actuality and the meme is going out to possibly someone who can maybe do something about it.
Of course there is something we can do about it. Unfortunately, since none of us in Paraguay, all we can help you with is our encouragement and our efforts to propagandize on behalf of the people of Paraguay.
All of us, in our countries, have a battle to fight, and our enemy is essentially the same.
PS I love my country, but hate the current administration of our government.
Of course you should. :)
Sankara1983
2nd June 2007, 05:34
Paraguay is a wonderful country to study. It featured the only autonomous economic development in South America after independence under a highly personalist regime, was destroyed in the War of the Triple Alliance, hosted the first fascist government in the Americas as well as brilliant radical leaders Rafael Barrett and Óscar Creydt, fought and won the Chaco War, suffered in the Cold War under the Stroessner dictatorship, and has successfully preserved its Guaraní heritage. It has a deeply rooted tradition of Marxist thought, but this hasn't translated to a significant following in practice.
I'll be glad to see the defeat of the Colorados at the next election.
Nothing Human Is Alien
2nd June 2007, 18:04
I'll be glad to see the defeat of the Colorados at the next election.
Not a big fan of Duarte?
Sankara1983
2nd June 2007, 18:38
Originally posted by Compañ
[email protected] 02, 2007 12:04 pm
I'll be glad to see the defeat of the Colorados at the next election.
Not a big fan of Duarte?
Or Cubas, or González Macchi (now in prison), or Wasmosy, or Rodríguez, or Stroessner, or Morínigo, or pretty much any Paraguayan president after Francia and los López.
anomee
2nd June 2007, 20:31
First, thanks to all who responded.
Second, I am not in Paraguay, I'm in the US and that's as specific as I care to get.
Third, to the Severian's comment:
If you have sources on some of the specific facts, that'd be good. I do tend to be a little sceptical on the emphasis some people place on the personal and family business dealings of Bush, Cheney, etc. Their families are relatively small players in the U.S. upper class.
You cannot be serious with that statement, Severian. Do you have awareness of the big picture on a global scale?
Through the original Seven Sisters of Oil and OPEC and ALL oil concerns ALL the world's oilmen are in bed together -- albeit with knives hovered over each other's backs -- and those who control the essence, control the world.
Those families I mentioned HAVE the MONEY -- much of it hidden in various places -- and they Have the POWER!
And an even worse factor is the coming water shortages even as the oceans rise from Global Warming -- no matter what its cause -- is those people who have little by little taken over the rest of the world's resources, now grabbing off the water supply.
This is not all theory, hypotheticals and college campus chit-chat, this is real life and needs to be taken care of NOW!
And one place where this grab-off of the water and strategically located land for military bases, going on in stealth behind the scenes is in Paraguay, NOW.
Digest that for a moment and then I'll say more.
Severian
3rd June 2007, 21:46
Originally posted by
[email protected] 02, 2007 01:31 pm
You cannot be serious with that statement, Severian. Do you have awareness of the big picture on a global scale?
Yes. Do you?
Through the original Seven Sisters of Oil and OPEC and ALL oil concerns ALL the world's oilmen are in bed together -- albeit with knives hovered over each other's backs -- and those who control the essence, control the world.
Those families I mentioned HAVE the MONEY -- much of it hidden in various places -- and they Have the POWER!
What? The Bush and Cheney families don't own OPEC nor any of the major oil companies (Exxon Mobil, BP, etc.)
If I was going to name one family as owning them, it'd be Rockefeller. They founded Standard Oil, which was later broken up to form most of the major U.S. oil companies.
But Bush and Cheney politically represent the major oil companies, even more than they represent other elements of U.S. big business.
And the Democrats represent big business just as much.
This all sounds like conspiracy theorism in the spirit of Michael Moore - if not the ultraright.
Certainly has nothing to do with a class-based, social analysis of the world situation.
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