Giuliani on Freedom

[Delirium]

Mr. Giuliani himself made his philosophy of government very clear in a 1994 speech on the subject of crime and law enforcement:

"We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do...At the core the struggle is philosophical. There are many, many things that can be done in law enforcement to protect us better. There are many things that can done to create a government that is more responsive and more helpful."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/preston2.html

I already knew he was a scum bag but still....

[pusher robot]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29, 2007 06:17 pm

Mr. Giuliani himself made his philosophy of government very clear in a 1994 speech on the subject of crime and law enforcement:

"We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do...At the core the struggle is philosophical. There are many, many things that can be done in law enforcement to protect us better. There are many things that can done to create a government that is more responsive and more helpful."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/preston2.html

I already knew he was a scum bag but still....
What's the problem? This is just basic social contract theory, going all the way back to Hobbes.

If you balk at giving up, say, the freedom to murder your opponents, you are not a good candidate for a civilized society. Best of luck staying out of prison.

[colonelguppy]

well i pretty much agree, although i know in practice i wouldn't agree with what guiliani would implement to "better protect" us

[Fodman]

...Giuliani officially adopted a zero-tolerance policy toward any and all criticism and satire aimed at himself. He had the New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority remove an ad for New York magazine from city buses that joked that the magazine was 'Possibly the only good thing in New York Rudy hasn't taken credit for.' A U.S. District Court judge slapped Rudy down for his inability to take a joke or tolerate the First Amendment; the ban was lifted.

do 'freedom-loving' Americans really want this guy as president?

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

They haven't been told by the FOX network yet

[Socialist Dave]

I prefer the existentialist theory of freedom, but not religously

[Delirium]

He is most authoritarian candidate that is running, the rest of the article is good but the guy looses it after a while.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

This doesn't even begin to cover why Rudy is a douche-bag. The authority of a government in such broad and vague terms is a basic characteristic of any organized society, state or stateless. The difference is that Giuliani endorses police brutality.

[Janus]

He is most authoritarian candidate that is running
There are a large number of candidates running at this early stage and some of them particularly from Giuliani's party are a lot more conservative.