i need an answer - it´s about cuba and fidel

[Fabio]

hi, i am new and i am a true commie but i have a question that my teacher told me and i couldnt answer it, if the communism system is so good then why have all the east countries field and she told me that in cuba you can´t think free and that castro has killed all the christians there, she also told me that in communism system the state owns everything, and that it doesn´t matter if you are a drugman or worker you get the same pay(why should the drug man get paied when he doesn´t work), and that in all commie systems you stay on an old time, is all this true please help me because i couldnt give her an answer and i hope that you my commie friends can give an answer so i can say that to her!!!

thank you!!

ps:please when you answer dont use so many difficult words because my english isn´t so good!!
and how was stalin evil?

from a "new" commie!!!

lav ya all!!

[Forgotten Menshevik]

I'd tell her she's a dum, fascist ***** and give her a slap. Its true, some dictators, i.e people who are only interested in themselves destroy possible opposition groups, including religions, people like Stalin did this to a huge number of people. In an ideal communism the state does own everything, but in a usual communism there is some money and personal possessions. In communism everyone gets the same pay, but tell your teacher since when were drug dealers workers. They are criminals, and would be locked up, not paid. Russia did have its own yearly calender a few months behind us 80 years ago, but that has long since changed. Stalin was evil because he tricked and manipulated his into power and killed millions of innocent people. Just say that and beat her in the head, hard.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

I am a anarchist socialist and those bastards were authoritian socialists. Thats a hugh difference.

Ask if she wants to place a news paper article in her local news paper about the good sides of Osama Bin Laden, real reasons of the US to go war- just to proof how open minded the top captalist country is

I am against equal payment of all. But pays must lie close to each other.

And in the East Europian country's there was a low crime rate and drugs.

(Edited by CCCP at 3:09 pm on Jan. 21, 2003)

[praxis1966]

Your teacher is basing her opinion on the lies spread in history textbooks all over the world. Tell her she wouldn't know communism if it bit her in the ass. Wait, tell her first that the only true communist experiment the world ever saw was the Sandanista government in Nicaragua. But that didn't last long because the CIA helped a bunch of right wing fascists overthrow it. Then you tell her that she wouldn't know a communist government if it bit her in the ass.

[Weatherman]

Castro never killed Christians, thats more propaganda. How can you not think free? The cubans are more free than we are. They vote for and control their own government represenatives. Castro is still in power because he is a good president.

I'm not sure what you mean by Communist countries stay on old time.

In Communism everyone is given what the society can afford, but in Socialism you can own whatever you want; Socialism has to come first because people arent ready for Communism, they are too greedy (I'm ready for Communism.

Dont take your teachers words at face value, they have been in the system longer and therfore are more brainwashed.

[Eastside Revolt]

It is true that Cuba has rediculous amounts of political prisoners. But most of the rest is lies. And what about America? Half of it's black prisoners might as well be considered political prisoners.

[ComradeJunichi]

This is why we need the senior members back. Everyone is patting their ass and giving each other the same old rhetoric with no basis of thought. You guys talk about brainwashing and taking in everything others say, but you guys are doing the exact same thing. And not everyone that opposes you is a god damn fascist, that term is seriously getting annoying.

You are not a "true commie", obviously because you barely know anything about it. Dont' take that as an insult, I barely know anything also. I doubt there are too many, if any, people who are "true commies". Don't just take in everything someone on this board says, just because they're "communists". You should go and research on your own, and read and form your own concept of thought.

Are you not embarrased? To claim to be communist and back the ideology, but know barely anything about it. I think when you study you should be open minded, and you should study as one with just an interest in politics and economics - not as a "communist". Stop blocking out everything anyone else says and calling them fascist.

I'd write a lot more, but I have to go to my next class. Bye.

[TXsocialist]

The elitist tones in that were too much to bear...

Communism isn't something that only the eduacated elite can indulge in -and ONLY thought, never in practice.

It's people like you, comrade, with your horrible attitude to those who've just seen the light - that give the learned marxist a bad name.

I don't pretend to know everything about Marx's writing, and if I did, I sure wouldn't speak with condescending, disgusting tones as yours.



(Edited by TXsocialist at 9:50 pm on Jan. 29, 2003)

[HS The Whap]

Quote: from Fabio on 2:45 pm on Jan. 21, 2003
hi, i am new and i am a true commie but i have a question that my teacher told me and i couldnt answer it, if the communism system is so good then why have all the east countries field and she told me that in cuba you can´t think free and that castro has killed all the christians there, she also told me that in communism system the state owns everything, and that it doesn´t matter if you are a drugman or worker you get the same pay(why should the drug man get paied when he doesn´t work), and that in all commie systems you stay on an old time, is all this true please help me because i couldnt give her an answer and i hope that you my commie friends can give an answer so i can say that to her!!!

thank you!!

ps:please when you answer dont use so many difficult words because my english isn´t so good!!
and how was stalin evil?

from a "new" commie!!!

lav ya all!!
You are such an idiot.

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from TXsocialist on 6:49 pm on Jan. 29, 2003
The elitist tones in that were too much to bear...

Communism isn't something that only the eduacated elite can indulge in -and ONLY thought, never in practice.

It's people like you, comrade, with your horrible attitude to those who've just seen the light - that give the learned marxist a bad name.

I don't pretend to know everything about Marx's writing, and if I did, I sure wouldn't speak with condescending, disgusting tones as yours.




The elitist tones in that were too much to bear...

Elitist tones? Where?

Communism isn't something that only the eduacated elite can indulge in -and ONLY thought, never in practice.

Where have I ever said, or even implied that communism is something that "only the educated elite can indulge in". I've never said anything like that. I find it foolish to label oneself as a "true commie", yet know barely anything. People should study and learn as openminded scholars, not as closeminded "communism rules". Read objectively, take in intellectually, be a scholar.

It's people like you, comrade, with your horrible attitude to those who've just seen the light - that give the learned marxist a bad name.

This is a horrible attitude? They've just seen the light, so I'm helping them see it with both eyes open - not one eye closed. Yes, like you've said they've just seen the light, then how are they "true commies"? It takes years and years of study to even grasp the basics.

I give marxists a bad name? I'm not even a marxist, hell I don't allign myself to any labels. My ideals that I try to grasp, with the little knowledge I have, lean socialistic.

I don't pretend to know everything about Marx's writing, and if I did, I sure wouldn't speak with condescending, disgusting tones as yours.

Who said you pretened to know everything about Marx's writing? Is Marx the only writer out there? You should read writings from every part of the spectrum if you wanted to become an intellectual.

Like I've said in my last post, I don't mean to offend anybody - as I see it that many of you get offended easily. Am I a fascist now? LOL...My tone was not a condescending, disgusting tone..however some of those who aren't able to look both sides before they cross the street obviously would take it as an insult. I'm simply asking to keep an open mind. No wait, that's fascist right?

Communism r00L3z!

[antieverything]

As Tiny Tim would say if he were drunk, "God...shut the fuck up, everyone!"

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from antieverything on 4:49 am on Jan. 30, 2003
As Tiny Tim would say if he were drunk, "God...shut the fuck up, everyone!"

LOL!!! Good one, made me laugh :biggrin:

[kingbee]

ask the same teacher why she thinks capitalism is so good when it leaves 800 million hungry people, 1 billion illiterates, 4 billion poor, 250 million children who work regularly, 130 million who have no access to education, 100 million homeless and 11 million children under 5 dying each year of malnutrition. nice to help someone who wants to know

[ComradeJunichi]

And I ask you, where do you get these statistics from? And really, c'mon. Let's look at this from an intellectual perspective - do you really put the blame on capitalism, an economic ideology, for all of these tragedies?

[Forgotten Menshevik]

Well, Junichi, you sound like a bit of a middle class cappie who really doesnt care about the welfare of the working class. You can study communism, but if you dont blame greed (capitilism) for some of the evils of the world, then you arent much of a commie. Communism is a simple truth of equality and sharing, thats something everyone, no matter how educated, can appreciate and support, it isnt a matter of study, its about caring for you fellow humans, whoever they are. As for the statistics. whether they are exagerated or not, just one death or injustice is enough to justify questioning the system, and it is well known there is no equality for the LEDCs of our world. I say get out there and do something, anything, to help communism, then you are more qualified to talk about communism, and being that cruel to people who just want to be a communist, Junichi, does no good for recruitment rates.