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smoy
19th May 2007, 23:26
rent the movie "what the bleep do we know" its this huge thing on thought and quantum mechanics, ur gunna have to watch the hole thing at least twice though, its really interesting
Mujer Libre
20th May 2007, 03:00
Um, this movie was produced by the Ramtha School of Enlightenment- a bunch of New Age spiritualist whackjobs who are trying to hijack scientific language to justify their bullshit beliefs. I mea- they believe their founder was visited by this being called Ramtha...

They're essentially a cult in the business of spreading their ideas. And when I say, "in the business" I mean it literally- they're a corporation.

So they&#39;re a corporate, pseudo-religious entity. Yeah- I really trust them to tell me about science. <_<

Here&#39;s a http://ramtha.com/html/pdf/introduction.pdf to their ideas.
Raúl Duke
20th May 2007, 05:16
They&#39;re essentially a cult in the business of spreading their ideas. And when I say, "in the business" I mean it literally- they&#39;re a corporation.

So they&#39;re a corporate, pseudo-religious entity.

hmm, reminds me of the plot of an Italian writer&#39;s book...
I think it was called Foucalt&#39;s Pendulum
Mujer Libre
20th May 2007, 05:31
It&#39;s by Umberto Eco. I&#39;ve tried to read it, but never managed to really get into it. His non-fiction is fantastic though- Travels in Hyperreality for example. It&#39;s a bit dated, and I disagree with bits of it, but his writing style and sense of humour are wonderful.
Black Dagger
20th May 2007, 05:47
Yeah, whilst this doco was fun (good visuals), it should be watched very critically.

As ML stated, it was produced by the Ramtha School of Enlightenment (whose &#39;leader&#39;, Ramtha aka JZ Knight appears in the film).

JZ Knight claims to be able channel a 35 000 year old warrior named Ramtha <_<

Check out the wikis on Ramtha and the doco for some info on the criticisms levelled at the film and its producer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_blee...cts_of_the_film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_bleep_do_we_know#Controversial_aspects_of _the_film)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramtha
Neutrino
25th May 2007, 01:36
I&#39;ve seen it before and it&#39;s very unconvincing. It takes some principles of quantum mechanics and from them draws very bizarre and non-sequential conclusions. It proposes no causation for our supposed ability to have a high level of control over our surroundings and makes other similar and ridiculously abstract conclusions.

Word of advise, skip seeing this film.