pacifist socialists

[Blasphemy]

does anyone know names of socialists who were also pacifist? excluding kautsky...

[Socialist Pig]

Ghandi

[Umoja]

Me.

[Conghaileach]

Eugene Debs.

[Ian]

Martin Luther King Jr

[Blackberry]

Albert Einstein

[socialist ballistix]

me. I guess. Im still kinda getting used to it.

[Pete]

I will be a pacisfist until the Global Bourgoisie rises up above the New Age Imperialists. When the fight reaches me only then will I join it. I will not look for it and will perfectly content to die in my bed at the age of 87 of a heart attack because I dreamed of being shot.

[Umoja]

I'd rather die then kill my opressor. I'd never want to help build anything in blood.

[Beccie]

Quote: from Umoja on 5:25 am on Jan. 4, 2003
I'd rather die then kill my opressor. I'd never want to help build anything in blood.

Same here!!

[Man of the Cause]

I think Rosa Luxemburg was a pacifist.

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from Ian Rocks on 1:19 am on Jan. 4, 2003
Martin Luther King Jr

Um...I doubt it.

Albert Camus

[Conghaileach]

from guerrillaradio:
Um...I doubt it.

Why?

[Conghaileach]

from Man of the Cause:
I think Rosa Luxemburg was a pacifist.

But didn't she take part in the Spartacist revolt in Germany in 1919?

[SonofRage]

I have heard Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. described as a democratic socialist.

[synthesis]

Jack London
Langston Hughes
Howard Zinn (became a pacifist after serving in WW2)
Helen Keller (advocated pacifism during WWI)
Pablo Picasso


Those are the ones I can think of

[Man of the Cause]

Quote: from CiaranB on 3:05 pm on Jan. 4, 2003
from Man of the Cause:
I think Rosa Luxemburg was a pacifist.

But didn't she take part in the Spartacist revolt in Germany in 1919?


But I remember reading that the main reason she opposed Leninism was because of the violence of it.

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from CiaranB on 5:03 pm on Jan. 4, 2003
from guerrillaradio:
Um...I doubt it.

Why?


Ok...clearly you are all more informed on the subject than me, but I've never heard MLK Jnr referred to as a leftist. :confused:

[Umoja]

Something on the Socialist Party website pointed out how he had opposing views towards Capitalism but like most Black Civil rights leaders of the time, he didn't define his theory to much. He wasn't a straight out DuBois.

[synthesis]

I've heard that the FBI, while they spied on him, intercepted communications between him and the Soviets... i.e., he was funded by them...

comments?

[Umoja]

MLK or Dubois? I don't doubt DuBois was funded by the Soviets, but MLK doesn't seem like the person who'd capitulate with the Soviets, and it should be noted that the FBI uses propaganda like that to try and dismiss MLK, and numerous other African-American leaders.

[truthaddict11]

FBi actually threated MLK they absolutely hated him i will try to get a letter from an agent to MLK and post it tomorrow

[komsomol]

Quote: from CiaranB on 5:05 pm on Jan. 4, 2003
from Man of the Cause:
I think Rosa Luxemburg was a pacifist.

But didn't she take part in the Spartacist revolt in Germany in 1919?


She did, although she opposed it starting(she thought the German workers weren't ready for power and if successful the regime would be held in power by terror), it was Karl Liebknecht who started it.

[truthaddict11]

was Malcom X later in his life?

[Umoja]

No, he advocated self-defense, and called MLK crippled by a non-violent philosophy, and that if Rockwell (A member of the American Nazi Party) brought any harm to King, that him and his Nazi thugs would be met with maximum resistance.