Ahmadinejad

[abbielives!]

whatcha all think of the Iranian president Ahmadinejad, i know his religous ideas are reactionary, but from what i understand he supports a number of social programs

[la-troy]

I think the only reason i like him is because he is not afraid of the US. But I quiver any time I hear the word "nuclear". Adding to that I don't know much about his political policies but i do know that he is widely supported by the working class and the poor. so
probably he has the working class at hearth.

[Coggeh]

well bush is supported by workers in america so ....

Why quiver ? if Iran goes nuclear they can challenge the grip the US has crowded the world with , some of his social plans are fairly bad , and his religious tendencies and fundamentalism just fan the flames of left wing criticism . the enemy of my enemy isn't my friend but their aren't alot of enemies of my enemy these days so ya.... mahmoud ahmadinijad is ok for now .

[bcbm]

Fuck that reactionary piece of shit.

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by black coffee black [email protected] 13, 2007 01:25 am
Fuck that reactionary piece of shit.
dont be silly he is antiimperialist duh!

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Marmot+May 12, 2007 07:48 pm--> (Marmot @ May 12, 2007 07:48 pm)
black coffee black [email protected] 13, 2007 01:25 am
Fuck that reactionary piece of shit.
dont be silly he is antiimperialist duh! [/b]
oh yeh i furgut lolz!! go ahmanianaajeejed, go taliban! yay antiimperialism

[Sir_No_Sir]

Im glad he's standing up to the west....but id rather the youth-led movements overthrow the sonufa***** and stand up to the west.

[Vargha Poralli]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 10:29 am
Im glad he's standing up to the west....
What choice does he have ? Anyway he is fastly becoming unpopular. His promises of bringing the prosperity to each household is no fullfilled and to divert people's attention from this fact he rhetorically slays Bush and Blair.



but id rather the youth-led movements overthrow the sonufa***** and stand up to the west.

I wish that too.

[Spirit of Spartacus]

but id rather the youth-led movements overthrow the sonufa***** and stand up to the west.


I wish that too.


Reality doesn't change merely because we wish it.

Criticism of the Iranian regime and Ahmadinejad must NOT lead us to a point where we stop supporting the anti-imperialist resistance of the Iranian people.

[Black Dagger]

Which anti-imperialist resistance is this exactly?

[UndergroundConnexion]

however this man also is an active holocaust dfnier, organizing conferences n shit...

[Janus]

but from what i understand he supports a number of social programs
So do a lot of religious figures and bourgeois politicians. Considering the political and religious structure of Iran and its reactionary and repressive qualities, I don't see why we should be supporting this "pawn".

[abbielives!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 05:05 pm

but from what i understand he supports a number of social programs
So do a lot of religious figures and bourgeois politicians. Considering the political and religious structure of Iran and its reactionary and repressive qualities, I don't see why we should be supporting this "pawn".

i agree actually, anyone know of a way we can support the students in Iran?

[bcbm]

Originally posted by abbielives!+May 13, 2007 11:41 am--> (abbielives! @ May 13, 2007 11:41 am)
[email protected] 13, 2007 05:05 pm

but from what i understand he supports a number of social programs
So do a lot of religious figures and bourgeois politicians. Considering the political and religious structure of Iran and its reactionary and repressive qualities, I don't see why we should be supporting this "pawn".

i agree actually, anyone know of a way we can support the students in Iran? [/b]
Fuck up Iranian embassies when students/workers in Iran are doing something.

[Lenin II]

How do I feel about the Iranian president? Lets see...he's a theocrat, and I hate religion. He's authoritarian, and despite being Marxist-Leninist I think hes a tyrant. But, he opposes America, hates George Bush, supports social programs, and hates Israel--all things I admire. BUT executions have greatly increased under him. Not cool. So basically I have mixed feelings about him.

On a side note, is it just me, or does he never wear anything but that biege jacket? Doesn't he have any other suits?

[BobKKKindle$]

Ahmadinejad showed restraint and caution during the recent political conflict with Britain due to the entry of a British vessel into Iranian waters and has, in spite of continued provocation by the United States, managed to remain calm and has tried to ensure a degree of stability in a highly volatile geo-political region. For this reason he is worthy of admiration.

However, there are of course many negative aspects of his government - in particular, the enforcement of the Islamic dress code through police pressure and prosecution is reactionary, as it forces women to present themselves in a certain way according to a religious doctrine, regardless of their own wishes. In several cases homosexuals have also been exectuted which is also reactionary - no-one should be subject to punishement of any kind because of their sexual orientation. So it is clear that we should have a policy of unconditional but critical support.

Does anyone know anything about the commuist movement in Iran? Is opposition political activity of any kind banned or are political organisations allowed to exist?

[Anton]

I'm not claiming this is a legitimate source, although judging by their info i'm inclined to believe it is. I will quote an exchange below, with someone who claims to be a part of the Worker-Communist Party of Iran (http://www.wpiran.org/English/english.htm). I alo think he/she posted here before but i'm not sure. The first message is from me and the second is the response.


According to what I have read, outspoken communists in Iran have been assassinated, jailed and otherwise suppressed. Is this true?


yeah thats true . In Iran basically someone who is against the government or even doesnt believe in theyr theory or Islam will be hurt and thats from attacking to them,from taking them to court and jail and hanging.
and if you look at the history of this regime you will see the killing of socialists/communists and also workers/human rights activists/atheists/homosexuals/followers of small religions/women and ...
its a big list and also there are a lot of documants about it.they still do that.some poeple get confused becuase they think The regime of Iran is against Imperialism so they probably support communism.its not true.they dont even believe in socialism ! if you even watch theyr progams on theyr tv or theyr radio station they say socialism is dead all the time.they support capitalism but in theyr own way.
yeah thats true ,and thats why a lot of our comrades had to leave Iran.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

What do you call a theocratic, nationalist, racist regime that mostly endorses capitalism but sometimes uses a few social programs to win support from the working class? That's right: fascism. If Ahmadinejad was European and Christian, everyone would immediately recognize him as a fascist (the Holocaust denial is a dead giveaway).

Yes, yes, of course Ahmadinejad is opposed to imperialism as it currently stands - because he's not in charge. He does not oppose imperialism in principle, he just feels left out because everyone else is doing it and he's not invited.

[Neutrino]

http://www.sodomylaws.org/irangay_teens.jpg
http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/iran/iran.htm

I don't support any state's "right" to do this.

And I don't have a high opinion of fascists, so by extension I don't have a high opinion of Ahmandinejad. The man doesn't support Socialism; he supports worker oppression and religious hegemony. There is no inkling of a revolution through him. The revolution can only come with the overthrow of him and the Islamic state.

[quirk]

He doesnt have as much power as it seems and real power rests with the Vali-e Faqih(supreme leader) Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. It would be Ali Khamenei who would take the final decision on whether or not Iran would build nuclear weapons and he has already issued a religous decree against the building stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons.

Ahmadinejad also isnt too well liked by the clerics in Iran who have brought foward the next presidential election by one year saying that it is to make it easier for people as there will be seperate elections that year, but widely thought to be a move to get rid of Ahmadinejad.