Piracy 101

[JayFitz]

Hi, new to this web site--really great stuff to see some progressive thinkers.

I've been teaching sailing and my survivalist concept "sea-steading" for the last 10 or so years up and down the west coast of the united states. It has been the case, historically, in many cultures that people have taken to a water based lifestyle to evade the forces of oppressive governments. This has been the case for me for certain, and one can own a boat and a boat based life in a manner one cannot own on land. Many of you will be aware of Libertaria and the Madagascar based pirates and know that this concept is nothing new.

I'm in the process of putting together a new book and feature length documentary on this visionary lifestyle and and am here on a fishing expedition, so to speak, to make some contact with interested personalities. Please see:

green self-sufficent sailboats (http://www.oarclub.org)

http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Steading-Life-Fr...r/dp/0595387586 (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Steading-Life-Freedom-Viable-Frontier/dp/0595387586)

The time is right for such projects but the time of viability is limited.

I'd appreciate meaningful feedback and discourse on the the subject.

Thanks!

[Cult of Reason]

Do the monetary benefits outweight mooring fees, or do you avoid them?

[JayFitz]

Sorry, my reply got lost somehow.

I think it absolutely pays. The key is to avoid ports with a great deal of development, litigation, and everything else that comes with it, while looking for those with opportunity. These still exist, and a skillful person can carve out a successful life. Just like you would think.

A good quality boat home, safe, although small, can be had for well under 20000 dollars. This is a boat capable of crossing oceans, and many have done just that. There are tricks, of course, to keeping the costs down and the incomes up, but of course that is the case for any lifestyle.

It really suits capable independent types.

[JayFitz]

Hi, posted this elsewhere but I expect it was rather the wrong forum.

I'm looking/recruiting people interested in Sea-Steading.

See:

green self- sufficient sailboats (http://www.oarclub.org)

Also:

http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Steading-Life-Fr...r/dp/0595387586 (http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Steading-Life-Freedom-Viable-Frontier/dp/0595387586)


Some of you no doubt aware of the socialist libertarian values of 16 and 17 century privateers--and many of those values find themselves still expressed in maritime culture today.

There is a real opportunity for capable people to carve out a life and cultural niche by adopting a water based lifestyle. We have been teaching these skills for the last decade and are looking to move forward into a more proactive posture. This will include building special purpose boats uniquely adaptable to the remaining undeveloped regions of the world--but with the advantages of high mobility and safety.

So, searching for anyone with similar tendencies interesting in this project. We will be able to build ocean capable but very minimalist sailing boats for under 20000 US once we're united and up and running. I see a flotilla of these in the future!

[JayFitz]

Oh, and one other thing.

Part of the philosophy of this whole Sea-steading project is that it's foolish to fight against something that you can ignore. That it is better to build where it it hospitable that where it is not--and as well it is wise to live in an environment where one's values are coherent within it than one where they are inherently opposed. I feel too often we progressives can get caught up in fighting against this and that. It's just too easy and often a sugar coated surrogate for constructive effort. This sea-steading thing is a sincere effort to start afresh--and I'm pleased to report continual effective progress. But, we can't move forward too fast! So I'm here trying to shake out a few shipmates.

[Idola Mentis]

Hm. There were people living like this in my parent's youth. Vagrants with old sailing ships, who spent the warm season travelling the coast building up supplies for the winter.

They were desperately poor, subsisting on the brink of starvation, sometimes resorting to crime or scams to survive, subject to all kinds of persecution, and cut off from basic services. Maybe a big enough investment in modern tech would make it a sustainable lifestyle, but I have a hard time imagining how.

[Sickle of Justice]

man thats a cool idea... i love the idea of moving around to avoid government. if i could get my shit together i'd totally give that a try.

[Red October]

If I had the money, I would try that. It seems pretty badass. But what would you do to pay for gas, food, clothes, etc?

[Janus]

Merged

[JayFitz]

There's no free lunch anywhere in the world anymore and one needs to earn their own way. But, there's lots of ways to do it.

For myself, it's construction skills for american ex pats,

but

teaching english,

dental care,

haircutting is surprisingly good

any trade skill.

IT work is totally portable now

and the list that goes on.

About 10000 is needed to get started, though with help one can do with less. About 20000 US is needed to really have it all together