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syndicat
25th April 2007, 17:57
my old friend redstar2000 posted a huge number of messages on this site over a period of several years, and that's sort how I found out about it, but I've only just gotten around to joining.

i've been involved in radical politics since the '60s/'70s era. i belong to Workers Solidarity Alliance, and agree with its libertarian syndicalist politics. Syndicalism, as I interpret it, is a form of prefigurative politics. The idea is that through the development of mass organizations, in workplaces and communities, self-managed by their members, we are prefiguring a new society based on self-management. Self-management means having control over your life, the opposite of being subjugated, oppressed. Self-management is thus a necessary condition of doing away with the class system. But this is not likely to come about spontaneously. The existing system tends to reproduce itself by developing habits of deference or acquiescence in authority in the heads of its victims. The working class can only develop the strength, self-confidence and consciousness to challenge the elite classes through a protracted process, as I see it.

I also tend to agree with participatory economics as a vision of an authentically socialized, self-managing mode of production. I don't interpret it as a "blueprint" but as a sketch of the conditions that need to be met to be successful in liberating the working class and the oppressed from the class system. But I'm not a groupie of Michael Albert and Robin Hahnel.

luxemburg89
25th April 2007, 18:18
welcome to the site.

The Grey Blur
25th April 2007, 20:30
I used to be sympathetic to Syndicalism but I think the workers need to have political representation as well.

Anyway, hello.

syndicat
25th April 2007, 21:04
Workers Solidarity Alliance is a political organization. I don't disagree with the idea of organizations of revolutionaries playing a role, as activists, organizers, publicists. But I think the mass of the people, the working class, need to gain control of the society, not a political party. The working class can't control things via a party leadership controlling a state. The role of the revolutioaries should not be to concentrate power in their own hands through hierarchical structures, but to help to develop the skills, knowledge, self-confidence and organization of working people for their own empowerment.

RebelDog
26th April 2007, 07:35
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 08:04 pm
Workers Solidarity Alliance is a political organization. I don't disagree with the idea of organizations of revolutionaries playing a role, as activists, organizers, publicists. But I think the mass of the people, the working class, need to gain control of the society, not a political party. The working class can't control things via a party leadership controlling a state. The role of the revolutioaries should not be to concentrate power in their own hands through hierarchical structures, but to help to develop the skills, knowledge, self-confidence and organization of working people for their own empowerment.
I cannot argue with that. Welcome to RevLeft.

RebelDog
26th April 2007, 07:41
my old friend redstar2000

Any idea how he is doing at the moment?

syndicat
26th April 2007, 18:20
No, unfortunately I don't even know where he is since he had his stroke. You know he's a Katrina refugee from New Orleans.

Sentinel
11th May 2007, 02:22
i belong to Workers Solidarity Alliance, and agree with its libertarian syndicalist politics.

Welcome to the site comrade!

I'm a quite fresh member of the SAC (see link in my sig) myself. I'm still relatively young and was raised in a marxist-leninist home -- I willingly admit that I still have a shitload to learn about libertarian socialist theory.

But I have come to the conclusion that syndicalism is the strategy to prepare for and in the future accomplish a society where the producers control the production, and where people actually have decisive, direct power over their own affairs..

Organising and fighting in revolutionary unions is the best, if not the only way for the working class to develop the consciousness and ability to govern the means of production and distribution. And thus society.

redstar2000's writings have had quite an impact on my political development on many areas.. His stroke and disappearance was a huge loss, but it's good to see people of his caliber still find their way here.

Once again, a warm welcome!