Nazism makes no sense

[Question everything]

This is to any one who has ever had a really debate with a Nazi... If Nazis think "Whites" are the "Superior Race" (that they are smart and stronger... etc.) how come they even have to do anything? If "whites" accually were superior won't they in evitably come out on top? Why don't they just sit on their racist asses if they are so sure of this?

[Ander]

I'm no Nazi nor Nazi sympathiser, but you're looking at it from a pretty narrow point of view.

All political ideologies need struggle to come out on top, even capitalism. You think the capitalists sit on their ass and let everything be? Hah, if they did they would be dead very soon and we'd be a lot happier.

Nazi's need to fight to "preserve their superior race" from being destroyed by the inferiors and to "educate" others with their racist "truth."

[Janus]

Evidently, they don't consider themselves to be superior at procreation. Their fear is that the "master race" will be "diluted" through mixture with the "inferior races" which is why they so vehemently oppose interracial mixing.


Why don't they just sit on their racist asses if they are so sure of this?
They're not really deterministic thinkers or even logical ones for that matter. Hatred and discrimination only begets violence.

[apathy maybe]

Nazism is essentially irrational. So of course it makes no sense.

(And a big shout out to all the ScumFront members out there!)

[Psy]

Originally posted by Question [email protected] 18, 2007 08:01 pm
This is to any one who has ever had a really debate with a Nazi... If Nazis think "Whites" are the "Superior Race" (that they are smart and stronger... etc.) how come they even have to do anything? If "whites" accually were superior won't they in evitably come out on top? Why don't they just sit on their racist asses if they are so sure of this?
That is because Nazism is based on a very fucked view on evolution and that only through racial purity and removing the inferior humans can the 'master race' evolve into perfection.

Nazi's blame the fact their not currently the ruling class on a Jewish conspiracy (that they state Marxists are a part of) and that these Jews are the secret ruling class keeping them from achieving greatness.

So basically they are racists with a convoluted consiracy theory.

[Demogorgon]

Well let's face it, most Nazi's these days are just looking for an excuse for a bit of violence. They aren't too bothered about the logical niceties of it all.

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Originally posted by Psy+April 18, 2007 11:19 pm--> (Psy @ April 18, 2007 11:19 pm)
Question [email protected] 18, 2007 08:01 pm
This is to any one who has ever had a really debate with a Nazi... If Nazis think "Whites" are the "Superior Race" (that they are smart and stronger... etc.) how come they even have to do anything? If "whites" accually were superior won't they in evitably come out on top? Why don't they just sit on their racist asses if they are so sure of this?
That is because Nazism is based on a very fucked view on evolution and that only through racial purity and removing the inferior humans can the 'master race' evolve into perfection.

Nazi's blame the fact their not currently the ruling class on a Jewish conspiracy (that they state Marxists are a part of) and that these Jews are the secret ruling class keeping them from achieving greatness.

So basically they are racists with a convoluted consiracy theory. [/b]
Imbreeding leads to evolution :wacko: Marxist are secretly supporting a Jewish Ruling Class ( :blink: ), these guys are even more mess up than I thought... :wacko:

[Psy]

Originally posted by Question [email protected] 18, 2007 11:57 pm

Imbreeding leads to evolution :wacko:

In the idea of pedigree dogs are supposedly better and taking that idea to humans (of course pedigree dogs usually have problems due to inbreeding).



Marxist are secretly supporting a Jewish Ruling Class ( :blink: ), these guys are even more mess up than I thought... :wacko:

They point to the Jews in the Bolshevik party then point to Jewish banks that lent the USSR money and say that is proof the USSR was really a Jewish state like Israel is now. They also state Marxism doesn't recognize their racial and gender superiority (Nazi's also feel women are inferior to men thus should have no power in society) and since Marxism demands they be equal with their lesses Marxism is a evil ideology.

It gets more messed up when you ask the older Nazi's about WWII, they claim it was good Franco won the Spanish Civil-War because it protected the innocent masses in Spain from the supposedly barbaric inhuman carnage of the 'evil' communists. They also claim the holocaust was Jewish propaganda and there wasn't even that many Jews ever in Germany.

[Jude]

If Nazis think that women are inferior (btw, in the PRC, females are considered inferior, leading to the murder of female infants... which completely disproves (if the use of capitalist economical values wasn't enough) any possibility of China's existance as a "Communist state"(whatever that is anyway!)), then why would a woman want to be a Nazi???

Sorry for the (somewhat) cofusing (and crowded) question, as well as my (over) use of punctuation, both parentheses and commas.

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Originally posted by Psy+April 19, 2007 01:03 am--> (Psy @ April 19, 2007 01:03 am)


Marxist are secretly supporting a Jewish Ruling Class ( :blink: ), these guys are even more mess up than I thought... :wacko:

They point to the Jews in the Bolshevik party then point to Jewish banks that lent the USSR money and say that is proof the USSR was really a Jewish state like Israel is now. They also state Marxism doesn't recognize their racial and gender superiority (Nazi's also feel women are inferior to men thus should have no power in society) and since Marxism demands they be equal with their lesses Marxism is a evil ideology.

It gets more messed up when you ask the older Nazi's about WWII, they claim it was good Franco won the Spanish Civil-War because it protected the innocent masses in Spain from the supposedly barbaric inhuman carnage of the 'evil' communists. They also claim the holocaust was Jewish propaganda and there wasn't even that many Jews ever in Germany. [/b]

God forbid we are all given rights, then the people who are "superior" are forced to co-exist peacefully <_<




Question [email protected] 18, 2007 11:57 pm

Imbreeding leads to evolution :wacko:

In the idea of pedigree dogs are supposedly better and taking that idea to humans (of course pedigree dogs usually have problems due to inbreeding).

Nobody notices if a dog is retarded, people on the other hand...

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Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 01:28 am
If Nazis think that women are inferior (btw, in the PRC, females are considered inferior, leading to the murder of female infants... which completely disproves (if the use of capitalist economical values wasn&#39;t enough) any possibility of China&#39;s existance as a "Communist state"(whatever that is anyway&#33;)), then why would a woman want to be a Nazi???

Sorry for the (somewhat) cofusing (and crowded) question, as well as my (over) use of punctuation, both parentheses and commas.
I suppose because "white" women are still rather high on the list

[Jude]

What I&#39;m trying to say is this: Why the HELL would someone AGREE to be inferior? I mean... WTF???

[Psy]

Originally posted by Question everything+April 19, 2007 01:44 am--> (Question everything &#064; April 19, 2007 01:44 am)
[email protected] 19, 2007 01:28 am
If Nazis think that women are inferior (btw, in the PRC, females are considered inferior, leading to the murder of female infants... which completely disproves (if the use of capitalist economical values wasn&#39;t enough) any possibility of China&#39;s existance as a "Communist state"(whatever that is anyway&#33;)), then why would a woman want to be a Nazi???

Sorry for the (somewhat) cofusing (and crowded) question, as well as my (over) use of punctuation, both parentheses and commas.
I suppose because "white" women are still rather high on the list[/b]
Yhea they say white women would be protected from rape, porn and prostitution so they would be free to live happy lives as house-wives (Nazi&#39;s think women in the workplace is exploitation of women since it takes away from their abilities to be house-wives) by the Nazi state.

[Psy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 01:55 am
What I&#39;m trying to say is this: Why the HELL would someone AGREE to be inferior? I mean... WTF???
Why do workers now agree to be inferior to the capitalist class? Okay so capitalist are smart enough to not come out and say they are superior but it is the same thing.

[Jude]

It all boils down to the unions being blindfolds manufactured by the Capitalists to give the working class the illusion of self-control. And now that the general population has forgotten about the bite of the hand they feed, they can go right back to handing out their kibble.

[Hiero]

In one of my lectures, the lecturer quoted some sociologist who viewed White Supremacy and the neo-Nazi movement in America as white men recreating masculinity. With the Civil Rights movmements, Malcolm X, the BPP, the Communist Party and the policies of NAACP such as Affirmative Action, White oppression received a few defeats. Many White people perceived that their identity was threaten by these actions. Espically White men, who felt constrained by the new PC culture (basically they couldn&#39;t be racist pigs).

Creating Neo-Nazi groups, and right-wing White Protestan supremacist groups (KKK etc) men were recreating their identiy. Masculinity was defined in the warrior spirit, just look at thier tittles (clansman, Grand wizard) and the idea of race war where their members have to fight in battle.

That is a anthropological/sociological analysis of the Neo-Nazi, White supermicist movement in the USA in the modern era. The Nazi and KKK movement before WW2 is a bit different. Though in the US pre WW2 the KKK can be seen as a crude and violent way of defending white surpemcy.

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Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 04:11 am
In one of my lectures, the lecturer quoted some sociologist who viewed White Supremacy and the neo-Nazi movement in America as white men recreating masculinity. With the Civil Rights movmements, Malcolm X, the BPP, the Communist Party and the policies of NAACP such as Affirmative Action, White oppression received a few defeats. Many White people perceived that their identity was threaten by these actions. Espically White men, who felt constrained by the new PC culture (basically they couldn&#39;t be racist pigs).

Creating Neo-Nazi groups, and right-wing White Protestan supremacist groups (KKK etc) men were recreating their identiy. Masculinity was defined in the warrior spirit, just look at thier tittles (clansman, Grand wizard) and the idea of race war where their members have to fight in battle.

That is a anthropological/sociological analysis of the Neo-Nazi, White supermicist movement in the USA in the modern era. The Nazi and KKK movement before WW2 is a bit different. Though in the US pre WW2 the KKK can be seen as a crude and violent way of defending white surpemcy.
probably the best explaination so far...

[Psy]

Nazi Rubber Duck explains Cultural Marxism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khg8HfOHU4Y), side note it is videos like this that make me dislike YouTube.

[Mariam]

Their fear is that the "master race" will be "diluted" through mixture with the "inferior races" which is why they so vehemently oppose interracial mixing.

Correct me if im wrong but isn&#39;t the Aryan race an Indo-European race, so it&#39;s not the "pure" after all?

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Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 01:38 pm
Nazi Rubber Duck explains Cultural Marxism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khg8HfOHU4Y), side note it is videos like this that make me dislike YouTube.
... I watched it all the way through, it was so stupid that If I didn&#39;t read the comments I would have mistaken it for a spoof...

[VeratheFastest]

Nazism appeals to people because it is based on Social Darwinism, it has had positive results (Germany did become economically better), and it promises to keep most of the status quo. Some people don&#39;t like change and are happy the way they are, the class issue was touchy for the early National Socialist Party. Goebbels even arranged a strange Commie-Nazi alliance at one point. But Hitler wanted more support for higher classes so the Left quickly became targets again.

There is also the "Big Lie" factor.