John Howard - HIV+ Immigrants Not Wanted

[Anton]

Australian PM – keep HIV people out

13th April 2007 10:30
PinkNews.co.uk writer

John Howard, the Prime Minister of Australia, has said that people with HIV should not be allowed to migrate into the country.

Interviewed on radio, the outspoken Liberal leader said that HIV+ people who came to Australia either as migrants or refugees, should not be allowed in.

Mr Howard, who is an opponent of gay marriage and other rights for gay couples, added that he would like to take "more counsel" and then consider ways to tighten existing regulations.

"I think we should have the most stringent possible conditions in relation to that nationwide, and I know the health minister is concerned about that and is examining ways of tightening things up."

His comments were in response to reports that 70 of the 334 new HIV infection cases reported in the state of Victoria in 2006 were among immigrants.

Yesterday it was reported that discussions about streamlining surrogacy laws broke down over the federal government’s refusal to grant gay rights.

The state attorneys-general’s conference was to stop the practice of Australians travelling to the only part of the country where surrogacy is legal, New South Wales, to have a child by this method.

The federal Attorney-General, Philip Ruddock, last night said that some of the other attorneys were holding childless couples "hostage" by pressing the Commonwealth to reform laws governing same-sex couples.

These were thought to include access of same-sex couples to inheritance and superannuation provisions.

Other attorneys disagreed with his assertion, and said a stalemate had been reached over changes to federal family law which the attorneys-general think is required.

Mr Howard’s government recently overturned an Australian Capital Territory law allowing civil unions for same sex couples, but has previously promised to address financial discrimination against gay people.

[Sentinel]

I went to Australia last november and took part in the protests against the G20 meeting. I knew that Howard was totally bankrupt politically, as he had said Australia should act as the United States deputy sheriff in the Pacific.

But now that I know that he is exactly as shit in both social issues and rational intelligence as well, I've come to seriously suspect him to be one of those few people responsible for the Earth Oxygene Scarcity (EOS).

If he only could stop wasting our fucking oxygene. :angry:

[Sir_No_Sir]

Is it just me or does this guy really,honestly, seem to have fascist tendencies?

[Reuben]

The great misbelief about HIV is that it is easily spread. If a male has penetrative sex has unprotected sex with a HIV+ female the chances of them getting the bug are around 1 in a thousand. its a bit more for a female having sex with a male but not a great deal more.

[Mujer Libre]

Yeah that's the thing, allowing in people who are HIV+ in no way means that there's going to be an epidemic in Australia...

In my mind, this is just Howard stirring up fear about 'foreigners with disease' right before an election. Hey wait, doesn't this mean he's stealing Pauline Hanson's line again?

Because of that, and the vagueness of Howard's statement, I also think he's attempting to play off racism and/or homophobia in this statement. Because we all know, in the public's mind, who has HIV...

[Anton]

mujer libre, yeah i think you are right
geesh, if this guy is considered "liberal" i'd really hate to hear those conservatives.

[Reuben]

Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 14, 2007 01:06 am
Yeah that's the thing, allowing in people who are HIV+ in no way means that there's going to be an epidemic in Australia...

In my mind, this is just Howard stirring up fear about 'foreigners with disease' right before an election. Hey wait, doesn't this mean he's stealing Pauline Hanson's line again?

Because of that, and the vagueness of Howard's statement, I also think he's attempting to play off racism and/or homophobia in this statement. Because we all know, in the public's mind, who has HIV...
I think the 'foreigners with diseases' thing is crucial here. Notions of hygiene have always been central to the way in which colonial-native/european-non european dichotomies have been constructed.

[Reuben]

I also think the potential popularity of the measure reflects the moral status of HIV victims. For all the talk they are still not considered legitimate victims in the sense that cancer patients are. This of course is ridiculous since as my earlier post on the chances of catching the disease showed, one of the biggest factors in catching HIV is siply bad luck.

[Vladislav]

Originally posted by [URL=http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Hanson-unhappy-about-sick-Africans/2006/12/07/1165081049997.html
The Age[/URL]]


Hanson unhappy about 'sick Africans'

December 7, 2006 - 6:49AM

One Nation founder Pauline Hanson says she's worried that black South Africans infected with AIDS and tuberculosis are allowed into Australia.

Flagging a political comeback at next year's federal election, Ms Hanson also said she was angry Australians were unable to swim in public baths because of the sensitivities of Muslims.

"You don't bend over backwards appeasing their demands because the politicians want their vote ... unless you change this you will have social incohesion which is already happening in this country," she told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

"If they don't want it, then they can go back where they came from."

Ms Hanson said she was committed to running as an independent in Queensland at the next election, though she had not made up her mind if she would run for the lower house or Senate.

She said she decided to make a political comeback after members of the public had urged her to do so.

"I have still got a lot of issues and I have still got a lot of concerns like a lot of Australians and I think that I would like to voice my opinions and have a say on behalf of the Australian people, to represent them," she said.

Ms Hanson claimed that federal parliamentary secretary for immigration Andrew Robb had admitted on television that the government was letting in many "black South Africans" with health issues.

"Andrew Robb actually admitted that a few months ago, it was on TV," she said.

"He indicated there was around about 37 per cent of black South Africans that were coming in with ongoing health issues."

Ms Hanson said she had been told by a hospital worker of an African woman with AIDS who had given birth to a child with AIDS.

"There's increasing numbers of TB (tuberculosis) and they have picked up ... it could be almost one third that actually carries TB," she claimed.

"I have got children, grandchildren ... I would hate to see anyone who may be subjected to catching TB or AIDS."

Ms Hanson was jailed in 2003 for fraudulently registering the One Nation party and spent 73 days in prison before her conviction was overturned.

She split from her former party and has spent the past two years writing her autobiography.

Questioned on her concerns about Muslims, Ms Hanson said she was angry that Australians were no longer able to sing Christmas carols in schools or swim in public swimming pools.

"What people are getting all upset about is the fact that you can't sing Christmas carols in schools because it upsets a certain amount of people," she said.

"You can't actually swim in baths because a certain amount of people want their privacy to swim in those baths.

"Swimming baths and pools that have been paid for by the taxpayers over the years and yet they are closed to everyone to use at the same time."

Ms Hanson said she was also concerned about the government's new industrial relations laws, the privatisation of government assets and bureaucratic red tape.

"I don't want to be bowed or beaten or pushed in the corner by politicians who just want to have it their way," she said.

"These are issues, concerns that I have. I have a right to know the answers."

Ms Hanson said she would make an official announcement about her comeback next year. She said she would give herself plenty of time to campaign.

surprise surprise

[dez]

what hanson got to do with howard?

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 14, 2007 11:06 am
In my mind, this is just Howard stirring up fear about 'foreigners with disease' right before an election. Hey wait, doesn't this mean he's stealing Pauline Hanson's line again?

Because of that, and the vagueness of Howard's statement, I also think he's attempting to play off racism and/or homophobia in this statement. Because we all know, in the public's mind, who has HIV...
^^^

[Demogorgon]

Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 14, 2007 01:06 am
Yeah that's the thing, allowing in people who are HIV+ in no way means that there's going to be an epidemic in Australia...

In my mind, this is just Howard stirring up fear about 'foreigners with disease' right before an election. Hey wait, doesn't this mean he's stealing Pauline Hanson's line again?

Because of that, and the vagueness of Howard's statement, I also think he's attempting to play off racism and/or homophobia in this statement. Because we all know, in the public's mind, who has HIV...
Well Howard is well known for his homophobia as well as his racism, so quite likely it is both. I suppose he might be trying to throw in an allusion to such people as junkies as well, just to round off his bigotry nicely

[rogue]

Hmmm, first post.
Just noted this thread and wanted to make sure that U.S. citizens on this board were aware that there is a travel ban in the States against HIV+ folks.

[Bilan]

Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 14, 2007 11:06 am
Yeah that's the thing, allowing in people who are HIV+ in no way means that there's going to be an epidemic in Australia...

In my mind, this is just Howard stirring up fear about 'foreigners with disease' right before an election. Hey wait, doesn't this mean he's stealing Pauline Hanson's line again?

Because of that, and the vagueness of Howard's statement, I also think he's attempting to play off racism and/or homophobia in this statement. Because we all know, in the public's mind, who has HIV...
Well put, comrade. :)

[Bilan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 03:16 am
what hanson got to do with howard?
They're one in the same really.
Howard is slightly more subtle than Hanson, but their intentions don't appear to be much different; Both extremely racist; homophobic; nationalists, etc.