How to respond to rightwing argument?

[Karl Marx's Camel]

I am in a discussion that started with the starter of the thread claiming (stupidly enough) the people of a large rightwing extremist party in a certain country are more individualistic, creative and intelligent.

I countered this argument by saying that this party supports the current social system, which undermines peoples identity with products that are produced for profit and not for need, that capitalism masks and people's identity with brands and the newest useless commercial crap on the market etc.

Then some person responded that "How in the name of the lord does profit arise if not by need? It is precisely capitalism that has created production according to need. This is its strength" and then goes on about western living standards. And "without this we would be slaves. Now we are masters over our own choices and needs".



I also talked about how people are underexposed of alternatives to "traditional morality", then a person responded that "You are not trying to say that non-traditional morality was more acceptable in pre-capitalist times (ie under feudalism)"


Thoughts?

[Rawthentic]

You simply need to point out our material reality. There are the stark differences in wealth, the capitalist wars, and all of the problems of capitalism that arise precisely because it is a chaotic and irrational system that ignores human needs.

[Demogorgon]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 04:53 pm
I am in a discussion that started with the starter of the thread claiming (stupidly enough) the people of a large rightwing extremist party in a certain country are more individualistic, creative and intelligent.


At this point you should simply have said "prove it" and watch him run round in circles.