What do you think of Soviet-Empire.com

[Dimentio]

Soviet empire (http://www.soviet-empire.com) is the name of a spin off forum of www.politicsforum.org, and is headed by an Englishman named Siberian fox. There are several differences from this community, one of them being that you must have either an unknown mail adress, or one that they are certain you have paid off, and another one of them being that there are a higher amount of ignorant imbeciles there.

Most "communists" there are really either people who are nostalgic to their childhood when the USSR still was around, or bitter bullied glass-eye snakes who worships the Soviet Union because it was big, "evil", and well-armed [much like bullying victims tend to associate themselves with Nazi Germany, T. Rex and Osama bin Ladin], in order to be so anti.

There are lots of documented maniacs there as well.

In conclusion: There is a miracle that soviet-empire.com has managed to become as giant as it is, given that all forums work as the "opposite ideologies" forum, that complete anarchy prevails and that the moderators half the time does not apparently knows what the opinions of the other moderators or of themselves are [they even had a nazi guy as moderator in the propaganda section once].

[Dimentio]

One funny detail is that they have a lot of members from so-called "real socialist states", like Vietnam for example (http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=37469).

[Hegemonicretribution]

If anarchy prevails it musn't be too bad there...I will have a looksie for kicks.

[Delirium]

i like how the marxists there ramble on about the 'middle class'

[Wanted Man]

I'm a mod there. Serpent is misrepresenting it pretty badly. The situation may have been like that 2 years ago, but it's very much different now. Anyway, it's not really a "communist" forum per se, as the owner himself is not a communist either, although obviously most users are.

As for the e-mail thing, it's true that school, work, ISP, etc. e-mail addresses are allowed, it's to keep out all sorts of 12-year-old spammers, although of course a lot of idiots still register.

I'm not sure who the fascist mod is whom you are referring to. If you're referring to interrupt, he has not always been an open nazi, although he is obviously a fascist nutcase. I don't think he remained mod for long.

Anyway, after interrupt got banned permanently, his little posse of crypto-fascist sycophants soon followed. This all happened over the last years. Most of the "bitter bullied glass-eye snakes" have gotten banned throughout 2005. Certainly, there are less idiots on S-E than there are on RevLeft. The idiots on RL just mask it by sounding intelligent, but most of the time, they are still full of shit. At least on S-E, you can recognise an idiot when you see one, so you don't have to pay attention to him anymore! :lol:

But hey, don't take my word for it. Come and check it out for yourself. Something you clearly haven't done in a while, as you seem very misinformed. Idiots like interrupt, DTA, Freiheits Kämpfer, Necro99, etc. All of them are banned.

[Dimentio]

Hahaha... well, I've could but the system there refuses to recognise my email. I am sorry for misrepresenting it, and generally thinks that it is a rather cool and cynical site. Let's say my info was a bit outdated.

[Enragé]

the layout gives me a headache

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 08:35 pm
the layout gives me a headache
The fact that they worship dead guys gives me a headache.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

Looking at it, personally I see it as the main Stalinist-Hub on the internet.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 12:38 am
Hahaha... well, I've could but the system there refuses to recognise my email. I am sorry for misrepresenting it, and generally thinks that it is a rather cool and cynical site. Let's say my info was a bit outdated.
Hmm, that sucks... what about an e-mail address from your school or workplace or your ISP?

RM: a big portion of the membership on S-E are actually trotskyists. Not the majority, but then again, no ideology really has a majority there.

[Rollo]

There's a lot of crap on SE. I don't post there much because everybody rides around on a high horse.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 12:38 am
Hahaha... well, I've could but the system there refuses to recognise my email. I am sorry for misrepresenting it, and generally thinks that it is a rather cool and cynical site. Let's say my info was a bit outdated.
Same here.


Looking at it, personally I see it as the main Stalinist-Hub on the internet.

Looking around, there seems to be quite a few non-stalinists. The most Marxist-Leninist forum on the web is probably irtr.org but that's Marxist-Leninist-Maoist.


The fact that they worship dead guys gives me a headache.

:rolleyes: typical anarchist rhetoric. Seriously it's getting old...

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2006 10:45 pm

The fact that they worship dead guys gives me a headache.

:rolleyes: typical anarchist rhetoric. Seriously it's getting old...
No, it's not getting old. Stalin, Lenin, and Trotsky are getting old.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by FoB+November 12, 2006 05:50 am--> (FoB @ November 12, 2006 05:50 am)
[email protected] 11, 2006 10:45 pm

The fact that they worship dead guys gives me a headache.

:rolleyes: typical anarchist rhetoric. Seriously it's getting old...
No, it's not getting old. Stalin, Lenin, and Trotsky are getting old. [/b]
Marx is dead/old too. Now you're anti-marxist? I always find it funny when anarchist say shit like Lenin/leninism is dead. Look at anarchism. Where has it gotten the working class? What Successful revolution has taken its' ideology? What benifits has it provided for the working class? None whatsoever as it is utopian and unrealistic. It is the product of someone with a clever imagination and alot of time on their hand but has no real world value.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I think Serpent actually described it pretty well. That's exactly how I'd describe the place as well.

[Rollo]

A lot of people have the misconception that leninists, trotskyists and stalinists worship the men the ideology is named after. This is not so in most cases ( most ) follow the writings and ideas and not the actual person.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2006 06:52 am
A lot of people have the misconception that leninists, trotskyists and stalinists worship the men the ideology is named after. This is not so in most cases ( most ) follow the writings and ideas and not the actual person.
true

but many do put focus on the "need" for a new leader, a new charismatic someone,
and a good deal of those calling themselves "leninists" do worship certain figures, especially if they're stalinist.
No self-respecting leftist would call themself a stalinist anyway, even if he is one.

[Zeruzo]

Err... i dont seriously know anyone that calls himself a 'stalinist'.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2006 06:34 pm
Err... i dont seriously know anyone that calls himself a 'stalinist'.
I do. He calls himself an "unapologetic stalinist".

He also sells stocks and then "gives the money he makes to the CPUSA". :P

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by SovietPants+November 26, 2006 07:26 pm--> (SovietPants @ November 26, 2006 07:26 pm)
[email protected] 12, 2006 06:34 pm
Err... i dont seriously know anyone that calls himself a 'stalinist'.
I do. He calls himself an "unapologetic stalinist".

He also sells stocks and then "gives the money he makes to the CPUSA". :P [/b]
wtf that is the dumbest shit I ever heard. I was actually thinking of doing something similiar like putting google ads on my blog and donating the proceeds to the RCP or the FPM or something, but I don't know anything about it.

[bezdomni]

Weren't you a Trotskyist like...yesterday?

[Anton]

I went to the site during the couple days I couldn't seem to get to RevLeft for some reason and needed my commie forum fix and most threads caused me to laugh my ass off - most of the ones I cam across were discussing

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2006 11:18 pm
Weren't you a Trotskyist like...yesterday?
yeah but then I saw the light... :D

I got fed up with the mass sectarianism of trots and their ineffectiveness. Plus I had also upheld the cultural revolution as the farthest advancement towards communism for a while, and realized that trotskyism holds the merits of anarchism: none. Workers choose Marxist-Leninist-Maoism and Marxist-Leninism over and over as their revolutionary theory, while trots and anarchists criticize and debate; workers fight for socialism and marxist-leninism ;)

[Dimentio]

And the countries turn into red national socialist states [hint: China, Vietnam, North Korea] which eventually turn to fascism and nationalism as the unifying ideology.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2006 06:27 pm
Workers choose Marxist-Leninist-Maoism and Marxist-Leninism over and over as their revolutionary theory
Umm...what workers are choosing Maoism "over and over" again?

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2006 11:36 pm
And the countries turn into red national socialist states [hint: China, Vietnam, North Korea] which eventually turn to fascism and nationalism as the unifying ideology.
If that is really what you think, then you should read up about what fascism is.

[Honggweilo]

Isnt anarchist utopian rethoric like uhm.. prehistoric? that's getting old

[Dimentio]

Peasant rebellions in Asia, Africa and Latin America tend to chose maoism. Or islamism. Both could yet very well turn into fascist dictatorships [Iran, Vietnam, China]

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2006 02:04 pm
Peasant rebellions in Asia, Africa and Latin America tend to chose maoism. Or islamism. Both could yet very well turn into fascist dictatorships [Iran, Vietnam, China]
seems like you lack any knowledge on fascism or Maoism.

[jacobin1949]

I first found out about Soviet-empire.com when Revleft was having a discussion about NAtional Bolsheviks and someone posted links to the discussion at Soviet-empire. I just visited yesterday and it seems to have a nice mix of socailists, trotskyists, leninists. I don't undertand why all the wackos who come here to bash stalin don't go to Soviet-Empire where they can get a taste of their own medicine.

Anyway I know revleft is a more "liberal" ground than Soviet-empire so I was wondering about your thoughts.

[Enragé]

seems overly stalinist to me

the one topic i came accross they're debating how to defend 1-party dictatorships

oh and its annoying you cant sign up with a hotmail address

i used the website of my school to make a fake one after that, but apparently you need to activate the thing first
(now i just hope my school principal doesnt get it :P or wait...maybe i do :lol: )

[welshred]

I dont like it much, too many Stalinists.

[jacobin1949]

What I find somewhat scary/humorous is that stormfront and soviet-empire are eerily similar. They both have big debates on the same issues.

Whether the National Bolsheviks are friends or foe

Should we support Iran even though ther are fascist/nonwhite

"Even though Jimmy Carter was a lousy president, I like his book"

How the antizionist Jews at the Teheran conference are the "good jews"

Its kind of eery that the extreme left/right are echos

[Janus]

I wouldn't consider SE to be part of the "extreme left" since many of the members are Stalinists who are either nostalgic for the good old days or simply Stalin kiddies who admire Stalin for his rule.

From what I hear, the ideologies are all over the place and there were even some fascists/fake leftists on there. Seems like a pretty confused site to me.

Old thread on Soviet Empire (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=58549&st=0&hl=Soviet-Empire)

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 06:52 pm
seems overly stalinist to me

the one topic i came accross they're debating how to defend 1-party dictatorships

oh and its annoying you cant sign up with a hotmail address

i used the website of my school to make a fake one after that, but apparently you need to activate the thing first
(now i just hope my school principal doesnt get it :P or wait...maybe i do :lol: )
yeah use asiafinest.com that's what I did


I dont like it much, too many Stalinists.

They say the same of revleft: to many liberals


Whether the National Bolsheviks are friends or foe

Should we support Iran even though ther are fascist/nonwhite

"Even though Jimmy Carter was a lousy president, I like his book"

How the antizionist Jews at the Teheran conference are the "good jews"

what what what?! SEers never said JC was a "lousy president" and non-white/fascist are completly different. the rest seems to be bull

[RNK]

SE is filled with some of the most uneducated and idiotic self-proclaimed leftists I've ever seen, including Maoists who still worship the PRC and Hu Jintao, even today.

For the most part they just seem like kids rebelling against the system by worshipping the most blatant, violent, unrefined anti-parents thing they can find.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

lol I haven't seen any of those folks but if you're refering to the people with Turmenbashi avatars and Hu Jintao avatars those are supposed to be jokes

[chebol]

Seems like you lack a knowledge of much at all.

If you have to reduce it to "trot vs stalinist/ maoist" then you've already missed the pint by so much you should really start again at kindergarten.

[YSR]

Thread merged

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 10:41 am
Seems like you lack a knowledge of much at all.

If you have to reduce it to "trot vs stalinist/ maoist" then you've already missed the pint by so much you should really start again at kindergarten.
what do you mean? Also the post you're refering to was posted like months ago and I think I took the wrong approach

[RNK]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 11:21 pm
lol I haven't seen any of those folks but if you're refering to the people with Turmenbashi avatars and Hu Jintao avatars those are supposed to be jokes
I don't find it funny, particularly when it re-enforces erroneous stereotypes and misconceptions.

[Whitten]

seems overly stalinist to me

the one topic i came accross they're debating how to defend 1-party dictatorships

One-Party democracies. There cant be more than two parties which are right, reactionaries and their parties are class enemies, not citizens. All but a few nut jobs over there support free and fair elections, just not the bourgeois democratic muli-partisanism.


What I find somewhat scary/humorous is that stormfront and soviet-empire are eerily similar. They both have big debates on the same issues.

Whether the National Bolsheviks are friends or foe

And the consensus? Foe, by far the majority agree about that. There was even a purge of NBP members some time ago. Most of us consider them Nazi's who like the hammer and sickle.


Should we support Iran even though ther are fascist/nonwhite

There is a discussion about Iran, and whether they should be supported for their anti-imperialialist activities despite their reactionary social structure. The only person to have accussed them of being fascist was one of the new members, who's opinion different from the majority. The question of race or skin colour as not once come up in such discussions.


How the antizionist Jews at the Teheran conference are the "good jews"

If by that you are suggesting anti-semitism, I think you need to reconsider some things. We are ofcourse anti-zionist, and support other anti-zionists, particuarly practicing jews who themselves oppose the disgraceful Isreali government. No body was supporting "holocaust denial" and neither were those jews in attendence.


SE is filled with some of the most uneducated and idiotic self-proclaimed leftists I've ever seen,[quote]

Many of them would say the same about this forum.

[quote]including Maoists who still worship the PRC and Hu Jintao, even today.

Of the three people who were supporting Deng, HU and the PRC in that thread, at least one of them came to Soviet Empire from Rev Left. (see Jacobin)


For the most part they just seem like kids rebelling against the system by worshipping the most blatant, violent, unrefined anti-parents thing they can find.

IS the same true of the middle aged members of the forum? It could be argued that many of the anarchists here are just rebelling in such a way, although through the opposite end of the libertarian spectrum.


I don't find it funny, particularly when it re-enforces erroneous stereotypes and misconceptions.

If you don't like the joke, don't laugh.

[Enragé]

One-Party democracies. There cant be more than two parties which are right, reactionaries and their parties are class enemies, not citizens

i can think of a system with a thousand parties which are all not reactionary, right, or class enemies.

We have enough little subsets of ideologies on the left :lol:


in any case i signed up (as Spiritof36) and as far as i've seen now its not as bad as it all seems. The layout is awful though

[Whitten]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 02:23 pm

One-Party democracies. There cant be more than two parties which are right, reactionaries and their parties are class enemies, not citizens

i can think of a system with a thousand parties which are all not reactionary, right, or class enemies.

We have enough little subsets of ideologies on the left :lol:
But they cant all follow the consensus line of the united working class. Factionalism only serve to divide the working class, the same as religion and nationalism, and can only have a negetive effect on any progress to be made by the working class.

I should probably mention at this point that I am not your traditional Leninist, especially in the sense that I'm not the biggest fan of the single-party system as per USSR. I do however view it as superior to multi-party socialism.


in any case i signed up (as Spiritof36) and as far as i've seen now its not as bad as it all seems. The layout is awful though

We appologise for our evil Stalinist layout :lol:

[Enragé]

the point is it is up to the people how they want to organise, which means that there are going to be different factions vying to persuade others that they're right, simply because people will have different opinions.

Parties, factions, arent something distinct from the consensus line of the working class, the consensus line comprises of all those different opinions brought together, discussed, then voted upon.

And 1-party states are not leninist.


Oh its not just that :P its just really annoying and confusing :P

[Whitten]

! party means one line, one consensus line. Multiparties means one party, or a coalition of parties holds power in the name of the working class, at the expense of the the rest of the movement.

[Enragé]

we're not talking bourgeois governments here now are we.

We're talking worker's democracy, through worker-councils.

[Axel1917]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 11:03 am
SE is filled with some of the most uneducated and idiotic self-proclaimed leftists I've ever seen, including Maoists who still worship the PRC and Hu Jintao, even today.

For the most part they just seem like kids rebelling against the system by worshipping the most blatant, violent, unrefined anti-parents thing they can find.
This is what I noticed long ago in the "socialism" and "communism" sections of politicsforum.org. I stopped posting there long ago. I haven't really looked around SE, but from what I have widely been told, this is also true of that site as well.

[Gobythebear]

A thread worshiping Stalin...... >_<

[Red Rebel]

über necro-post :P

The S-E is a great forum. It is mostly full of Marxist-Leninists, and you can find good debates there.

[Faux Real]

I found out about RevLeft after lurking there for about a year. I also thought it was the only &#39;communist&#39; haven on the Internet&#33; It&#39;s not a bad site, and it doesn&#39;t have an agenda. The (usual) blind praise around today&#39;s &#39;socialist&#39; states is a bit eerie though.

On another note does anyone know why was Goranhammer banned?

[spartan]

I wanted to join soviet-empire but they would not accept my free email address every time i tried to register? Although some SE members blind praise of current "Socialist" states (Especially the DPRK) is bordering on worship at least they believe in the idea of Socialism so that can not be to bad.

[hajduk]

i read the thread about Yugoslavia and there is some god stuff about it but moust of the other threads are full of confused members(except our members who registered there) who doesnt know what they speak or have hidden thoughts which not complay for what they speaking i mean on revleft forum i learn more about history of communism and his ideology (and i lived in socialism)from you comrades and on Soviet empire moust of the members they talk but i think they dont understand what they talk,so if you whant go there and learn them some stuff
SIEMPRE REVLEFT

[spartan]

One of the good aspects of soviet-empire is their various history sections where they talk about the wars involving the left.

[AntifaHooligan]

Im trying to join Soviet-Empire.com, but it always says that the confirmation code is wrong, but i know its right...

[spartan]

AntifaHooligan i think like me when i tried to join soviet-empire your email address which is probably a free email address is not being accepted for some reason? I think soviet-empire only let people with either ISP&#39;s, education, work or certain free email addresses to join the forum.

[AntifaHooligan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 04:20 pm
AntifaHooligan i think like me when i tried to join S-E your email address which is probably a free email address is not being accepted for some reason?
I dont think so. I used my hotmail adress the first time, and then it said that my e-mail adress was banned. Then i tried with another adress, and then it said that the confirmation code was invalid. I have tried to contact the administrators about it, because i know the confirmation code is correct.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18, 2007 10:03 pm
On another note does anyone know why was Goranhammer banned?
I&#39;m not sure what the exact reason was, but in his last few days, he was basically just a troll.

As for the e-mail addresses, try one from your school, college, workplace or ISP. Freemail addresses aren&#39;t accepted in order to keep 13-year-old kids out.

[Red Scare]

I decided to register just to check it out, if you have an AIM screename you can just say [email protected]l.com it will work because they think it is an ISP email, all you have to do is sign in on AOL under screename and go to your email :)