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Issaiah1332
2nd April 2007, 23:43
I don't understand how one could be for capitalism and still be an anarchist. Can someone explain?

Whitten
2nd April 2007, 23:51
To put it very simply, its a capitalist who believes there should be no state to interfer in the free market, and everything should be run as a private business, including civil-policing and justice.

Its not Anarchism in the traditional sense, just in that it opposes the existance of the state.

Question everything
3rd April 2007, 00:22
I started a thread on this pretty recently in OI, if you want to read it...

Janus
3rd April 2007, 00:36
Most anarchists don't consider anarcho-capitalists to be true anarchists. Their only similarities remain in their opposition to an intervening state as stated above.

Anarcho-capitalists seek to take capitalism to its extreme in terms of the destruction of all trade barriers and a society established based on voluntary trade and a free market.

Previous threads on this:
anarcho-capitalism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=58398&hl=anarcho+capitalism)
anarcho-capitalism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=63540&hl=anarcho-capitalism)

Kwisatz Haderach
3rd April 2007, 05:30
Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron that may exist for about 0.6 seconds before the private security firms realize that, in the absence of a state, there is no one to stop them from turning into organized crime gangs.

Some anarcho-capitalists have seriously heralded the chaos in Somalia as a living example of their twisted "utopia".

Question everything
3rd April 2007, 22:05
Somalia their Utopia? those guys are even more fucked up then I thought :wacko:

Lenin II
3rd April 2007, 23:15
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 10:51 pm
To put it very simply, its a capitalist who believes there should be no state to interfer in the free market, and everything should be run as a private business, including civil-policing and justice.

Its not Anarchism in the traditional sense, just in that it opposes the existance of the state.
So in other words, Libertarians.

RedKnight
4th April 2007, 03:25
Originally posted by AndrewG+April 03, 2007 10:15 pm--> (AndrewG @ April 03, 2007 10:15 pm)
[email protected] 02, 2007 10:51 pm
To put it very simply, its a capitalist who believes there should be no state to interfer in the free market, and everything should be run as a private business, including civil-policing and justice.

Its not Anarchism in the traditional sense, just in that it opposes the existance of the state.
So in other words, Libertarians. [/b]
Basicly yes. Only most an-caps don't vote. An example of an "anarcho-capitalist" was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard Murray Rothbard.

Raj Radical
5th April 2007, 19:41
Power of the state transfered to the corporations.

RGacky3
5th April 2007, 19:48
I don't think Anarcho-Capitalism is a real Social Movement or theory, it seams like just a bunch of intelectual wanks, does'nt really have any following, and can pretty much be ignored.

Question everything
6th April 2007, 00:57
No there is a liberatian party in canada, I'm not sure, but I think they are capitalist.

Janus
6th April 2007, 01:38
Libertarians by definition support full capitalism i.e. laissez-faire economics and are opposed to any state intervention at all.

Question everything
6th April 2007, 01:46
I thought so. (but there are liberatian socialists, I'm surprised that a party that mess up is getting any support)

Janus
6th April 2007, 01:51
but there are liberatian socialists
In the Libertarian party? :blink: Libertarian socialists oppose capitalism and the free market. The two shouldn't be confused.

Question everything
6th April 2007, 01:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 12:51 am

but there are liberatian socialists
In the Libertarian party? :blink: Libertarian socialists oppose capitalism and the free market. The two shouldn't be confused.
the only thing I read was the name of the party none of it's platforms or anything, it's safe to assume it's capitalist, it's just I'd rather not make an idiot out of myself by saying it is when it is not.

southernmissfan
6th April 2007, 02:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 12:51 am

but there are liberatian socialists
In the Libertarian party? :blink: Libertarian socialists oppose capitalism and the free market. The two shouldn't be confused.
I think he just meant that there are libertarian socialists as well as libertarians (free-market capitalists like we are discussing), not that socialists are in the libertarian party.

I would estimate that anarcho-capitalism is a very small current amongst the Libertarian party. It's interesting that the L.P. has been able to attract some voters and sympathy in recent years. There is a growing trend of people that are self-described "libertarians", only a very small minority of which actually understand the extent of the L.P.'s economic views. The Libertarians have been pretty successful in focusing mostly on social and civil rights type issues (Patriot Act, Drug War, etc.). Of course, it makes sense that these folks would be good at marketing.

Janus
6th April 2007, 02:12
the only thing I read was the name of the party none of it's platforms or anything
There is no Libertarian socialist party. The term libertarian has now been hijacked by free market/anarcho-cap supporters and so it's sometimes confusing when true anarchists use the term.