MaxB
7th September 2002, 17:33
I like to deal in facts and not idealism or fantasies. For example, Right and Left are just terms we use against each other. Didn't you people know that Fascism is very much like Socialism.
http://www.tfp.org/what_we_think/fascism.html
The unconditioned, intelligent, open minded will see this. The biggest irony is for a Left winger to call somebody who doesn't agree with them a "Fascist". This is like "the pot calling the kettle black". MARXISM, SOCIALISM, AND FASCISM ARE JUST LETTERS BELONGING TO THE SAME COIN. But just like warring siblings, they tend to call each other names, and while their tactics might be slightly different,---THE END IS THE SAME--------DISASTER. Yes, one thing common to all Socialist states has been its inability to deliver what Socialism promises and redistributing poverty and famine.
And, the Leftist inept and obtuse keep on revising and reclassifying themselves to justify the dismal failures of their Socialism in its many different forms.
One tactic of liberals is to describe Western Europe as "Socialist". THIS IS INCORRECT. Western Europe is a mixture of Capitalism and some Socialism; it's a MIXED ECONOMY----and like any other country or system in this planet, not without their own problems. Western Europe is full of Corporations (http://www.europages.com/en/). So Western Europe can not be "Socialist". You see, Leftists don't have much of an argument on anything that's factual or based on reality, that's why everything to them has to be "relative".
One of the tactics of the Socialist is to point out the imperfections of "Capitalism" and mobilize the "masses". This is as far as it gets or ever will because while Leftists are good at pointing out problems (who isn't), THEY'RE NOT GOOD AT SOLVING ANY OF THEM. The whole Socialist/Collective concept of "success" lies on the assumption that "you are your brother's keeper" and "from each according to his ability, and to each according to his need." EXAMINE THIS: This sound wonderful and it sounds even better if preached during a sermon.
That flawed philosophy that says that "you are your brother's keeper." That it's wrong to think of yourself first. That you ought to be thinking about others before yourself. That's pure garbage. It has never worked, it doesn't work, and never will.
"There's a good reason for that: if you are thinking first of others, why aren't others also thinking first of you without the interference of government, which wants to "take" part of your earnings and gives it to "the needy," making "need" a demand upon your earnings. Since "thinking about others" must be forced, it takes away from the person who earns his own way the incentive to earn. If you don't get to keep the result of your labors, why work at all? Why not become "needy" and benefit from the labor of others? When "need" becomes the standard, people fall over themselves to be the most needy".
Yes, we should be charitable and altruistic to the old, the sick, and disable. But when charity becomes forced upon us by some "higher power: government", it's not charity anymore, it's stealing. FOR A SOCIETY TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE MUST WORK AND PEOPLE MUST BE ALLOWED TO KEEP AND ENJOY THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR. While Corporations are greedy (who isn't), they provide services, products, and jobs. That once in a while an ENRON comes along is no excuse to look to Socialism (a failed ideology) as a "solution" to the problem; but yes, such a Corporation should be prosecuted and punished for its misdeeds. We should always strive to make Capitalism better, more charitable, and more altruistic.
Marxists are dense and obtuse people. One of the things Marxists have benn trying to do since the death of Stalin, and specially since the collapse of the Iron Curtain, is to try to revise history and reclasify themselves. You'll hear such ridiculous things as: "Stalin was a Fascist" or "the 'right form' of Socialism hasn't been tried". Since ALL SOCIALISM is based on "collectivism" it will never work. Say what you will, HISTORY, FACTS, AND REALITY speak louder than words. THE CONCEPT OF ALL LEFTISTS IS BASED ON WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM THOSE THAT PRODUCE AND WORK, AND NOT ON PRODUCING THEMSELVES. YES, WHEN "NEED" BECOMES THE STANDARD, NOBODY PRODUCES AND THE WHOLE HOUSE FALLS APART.
Know what Marxism is and read so you can see that there is very little difference between Fascism and Socialism. While the Nazis practiced "racial genocide", the Communists "class genocide". The Nazis/Fascists had extermination camps, the
preferred weapon of the Communists was famine (this was an easy thing to do when there is central control/ownership of all resources, such as in a Socialist country. Opinions different to that of the party line can be "silenced" very quickly). Socialist dictators (and any other type of dictator) are good at concealing facts, "the absolute denial of access to archives ..., the total control of the print and other media as well as of border crossings, the propaganda trumpeting the regimes's 'successes,' and the entire apparatus for keeping information under lock and key were designed primarily to ensure that the awful truth would never see the light of day." They viciously attacked all who attempted to reveal the truth, they attempted to justify their crimes as a "necessary aspect of revolution," (You can't make anmelet without breaking eggs.)
Read the works of Marx and Engel and see how these two were dinosaurs from another era with a limited view of the world not knowing what the future would bring. Creating DEPENDENCY is what Leftists are good for---and nothing else.
http://www.tfp.org/what_we_think/fascism.html
The unconditioned, intelligent, open minded will see this. The biggest irony is for a Left winger to call somebody who doesn't agree with them a "Fascist". This is like "the pot calling the kettle black". MARXISM, SOCIALISM, AND FASCISM ARE JUST LETTERS BELONGING TO THE SAME COIN. But just like warring siblings, they tend to call each other names, and while their tactics might be slightly different,---THE END IS THE SAME--------DISASTER. Yes, one thing common to all Socialist states has been its inability to deliver what Socialism promises and redistributing poverty and famine.
And, the Leftist inept and obtuse keep on revising and reclassifying themselves to justify the dismal failures of their Socialism in its many different forms.
One tactic of liberals is to describe Western Europe as "Socialist". THIS IS INCORRECT. Western Europe is a mixture of Capitalism and some Socialism; it's a MIXED ECONOMY----and like any other country or system in this planet, not without their own problems. Western Europe is full of Corporations (http://www.europages.com/en/). So Western Europe can not be "Socialist". You see, Leftists don't have much of an argument on anything that's factual or based on reality, that's why everything to them has to be "relative".
One of the tactics of the Socialist is to point out the imperfections of "Capitalism" and mobilize the "masses". This is as far as it gets or ever will because while Leftists are good at pointing out problems (who isn't), THEY'RE NOT GOOD AT SOLVING ANY OF THEM. The whole Socialist/Collective concept of "success" lies on the assumption that "you are your brother's keeper" and "from each according to his ability, and to each according to his need." EXAMINE THIS: This sound wonderful and it sounds even better if preached during a sermon.
That flawed philosophy that says that "you are your brother's keeper." That it's wrong to think of yourself first. That you ought to be thinking about others before yourself. That's pure garbage. It has never worked, it doesn't work, and never will.
"There's a good reason for that: if you are thinking first of others, why aren't others also thinking first of you without the interference of government, which wants to "take" part of your earnings and gives it to "the needy," making "need" a demand upon your earnings. Since "thinking about others" must be forced, it takes away from the person who earns his own way the incentive to earn. If you don't get to keep the result of your labors, why work at all? Why not become "needy" and benefit from the labor of others? When "need" becomes the standard, people fall over themselves to be the most needy".
Yes, we should be charitable and altruistic to the old, the sick, and disable. But when charity becomes forced upon us by some "higher power: government", it's not charity anymore, it's stealing. FOR A SOCIETY TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE MUST WORK AND PEOPLE MUST BE ALLOWED TO KEEP AND ENJOY THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR. While Corporations are greedy (who isn't), they provide services, products, and jobs. That once in a while an ENRON comes along is no excuse to look to Socialism (a failed ideology) as a "solution" to the problem; but yes, such a Corporation should be prosecuted and punished for its misdeeds. We should always strive to make Capitalism better, more charitable, and more altruistic.
Marxists are dense and obtuse people. One of the things Marxists have benn trying to do since the death of Stalin, and specially since the collapse of the Iron Curtain, is to try to revise history and reclasify themselves. You'll hear such ridiculous things as: "Stalin was a Fascist" or "the 'right form' of Socialism hasn't been tried". Since ALL SOCIALISM is based on "collectivism" it will never work. Say what you will, HISTORY, FACTS, AND REALITY speak louder than words. THE CONCEPT OF ALL LEFTISTS IS BASED ON WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM THOSE THAT PRODUCE AND WORK, AND NOT ON PRODUCING THEMSELVES. YES, WHEN "NEED" BECOMES THE STANDARD, NOBODY PRODUCES AND THE WHOLE HOUSE FALLS APART.
Know what Marxism is and read so you can see that there is very little difference between Fascism and Socialism. While the Nazis practiced "racial genocide", the Communists "class genocide". The Nazis/Fascists had extermination camps, the
preferred weapon of the Communists was famine (this was an easy thing to do when there is central control/ownership of all resources, such as in a Socialist country. Opinions different to that of the party line can be "silenced" very quickly). Socialist dictators (and any other type of dictator) are good at concealing facts, "the absolute denial of access to archives ..., the total control of the print and other media as well as of border crossings, the propaganda trumpeting the regimes's 'successes,' and the entire apparatus for keeping information under lock and key were designed primarily to ensure that the awful truth would never see the light of day." They viciously attacked all who attempted to reveal the truth, they attempted to justify their crimes as a "necessary aspect of revolution," (You can't make anmelet without breaking eggs.)
Read the works of Marx and Engel and see how these two were dinosaurs from another era with a limited view of the world not knowing what the future would bring. Creating DEPENDENCY is what Leftists are good for---and nothing else.