Lee Harvey Oswald

[Red Menace]

Because Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marxist sympathizer, and he managed to assassinate the U.S's president, did his actions further any anti-communist sentiments, that were going on at the time, because the U.S. was in the middle of the Cold War, and Mccarthyism allready ran rampant in the country?

[freakazoid]

That is if you believe that he actually did it. And if you believe that he really was a communist.

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 03:09 am
e'rybody knows the CIA and LBJ had that done.
They do?

As far as I know, I don't think it increased anti-communist sentiment that much, though it would be pretty hard to increase it higher than it already was.

[RebelDog]

e'rybody knows the CIA and LBJ had that done.

That didn't happen anymore than this did:

Elvis did it. The aliens sent him back in time.

Oswald acted alone and killed Kennedy, that was clear from an early stage, and so his actions had, basically, a neutral effect.

[chimx]

Oswald acted alone and killed Kennedy, that was clear from an early stage, and so his actions had, basically, a neutral effect.

Yup. Enough of the leftist conspiracy theory the rest of you! you're making the rest of us look bad.

I have no idea if the fact that Oswald *was* a self-affirmed Marxist (not sympathizer) played into the hands of the political right. My guess is not a lot, since there is very little hype over the fact that he was a Marxist who had tried to become a Soviet citizen years earlier. Keep in mind that just a few years later the anti-Vietnam student movement really exploded and the political left surged to new heights.

[Lenin II]

I seriously doubt that he was really a Marxist. I would not put it past the right-wingers for one second to plant that on him in order to gain public support for the war and raise animosity towards the Soviets. It seems way to convenient for him to be the killer of president AND a “Communist.”

[Pirate Utopian]

why wouldnt he be a Communist?
because he killed some populair president?, if we lived in that time we would all diss JFK too.

[freakazoid]

I seriously doubt that he was really a Marxist. I would not put it past the right-wingers for one second to plant that on him in order to gain public support for the war and raise animosity towards the Soviets. It seems way to convenient for him to be the killer of president AND a “Communist.”

He actually did claim to be one. He was interviewed once. This is the transcript of it, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/stuck3.htm

Some interesting things about him, http://www.famoustexans.com/leeharveyoswald.htm

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 28, 2007 09:53 pm
Oswald acted alone and killed Kennedy, that was clear from an early stage, and so his actions had, basically, a neutral effect.
Or what would make more sense then one man acting by himself being able to do that, is that Harry Lee Oswald acted as the counter-Operation Mongoose that Kennedy had employed on Fidel.

[chimx]

Crazy ass conspiracy theory... I don't understand materialists that base claims on a total lack of material empirical evidence.

Anyway, Oswald was a Marxist, and had been one since he was a late teenager. He went to the USSR, and tried to apply for citizenship, but got turned down, and eventually came back to the US. He attempted to assassinate an anti-communist army general, but failed, then later killed Kennedy.

[Tekun]

Can we do away with all the conspiracy theories, its been thoroughly debated and ridiculed in other threads, must we debunk it again?

McCarthyism, by the early to mid 60's when Kennedy came in, had been severely scaled back
However, that's not to say that anti-communist policies within the government had been rejected
An anti-communist agenda within the government had roots as far back as the Haymarket riots
During WW2, anti-communism took a back seat in order to defeat fascism in Europe and Asia
When McCarthyism emerged during the 50's, it was both a public and private sector matter, but had its deepest effects within the public
It wasn't until notable, high-ranking politicians and judges began to condemn and dismiss McCarthy and his cronies on behalf of the public, that McCarthyism began die out
So, its obvious that McCarthyism could have easily been done away with alot faster had the upper echelons of government spoke out earlier
With this said, we must remember that the government opposed of McCarthy's domestic tactics, but encouraged it around the world
So, anti-communism within the government was somewhat different than McCarthy's domestic brand of it
As McCarthyism began to be limited in the late 50's to early 60's, anti-communism became the US government's global policy
By the time Oswald killed JFK, McCarthyism was still quite limited and scaled back within the country
But outside the US borders, anti-communism and anti-Soviet policies was widespread and sponsored by the US
So, to answer your question, JFK's death did not spark or energize McCarthyism, for this policy was a shadow of its former self
Nor did it have an impact on the America's global fight against communism, for this battle had been going on for years
As far as the BP's and the Weathermen are concerned, I think these are isolated and unique aspects of McCarthy's ideas, especially within the FBI, that seemed to survive long after the red scare of the 50s

[Red Menace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2007 04:57 am
Can we do away with all the conspiracy theories, its been thoroughly debated and ridiculed in other threads, must we debunk it again?

McCarthyism, by the early to mid 60's when Kennedy came in, had been severely scaled back
However, that's not to say that anti-communist policies within the government had been rejected
An anti-communist agenda within the government had roots as far back as the Haymarket riots
During WW2, anti-communism took a back seat in order to defeat fascism in Europe and Asia
When McCarthyism emerged during the 50's, it was both a public and private sector matter, but had its deepest effects within the public
It wasn't until notable, high-ranking politicians and judges began to condemn and dismiss McCarthy and his cronies on behalf of the public, that McCarthyism began die out
So, its obvious that McCarthyism could have easily been done away with alot faster had the upper echelons of government spoke out earlier
With this said, we must remember that the government opposed of McCarthy's domestic tactics, but encouraged it around the world
So, anti-communism within the government was somewhat different than McCarthy's domestic brand of it
As McCarthyism began to be limited in the late 50's to early 60's, anti-communism became the US government's global policy
By the time Oswald killed JFK, McCarthyism was still quite limited and scaled back within the country
But outside the US borders, anti-communism and anti-Soviet policies was widespread and sponsored by the US
So, to answer your question, JFK's death did not spark or energize McCarthyism, for this policy was a shadow of its former self
Nor did it have an impact on the America's global fight against communism, for this battle had been going on for years
As far as the BP's and the Weathermen are concerned, I think these are isolated and unique aspects of McCarthy's ideas, especially within the FBI, that seemed to survive long after the red scare of the 50s
thank you comrade, for answering that for me.