Jim Morrison

[Fodman]

I am intrigued as to know this, as he speaks of freedom a fair amount in The Doors' songs, however I am not sure as to what 'freedom' he means by this. He is quite abstract in his lyrics - well that's my point of view.

I think he just refers to absolute freedom of expression.

what are your views?

[Pirate Utopian]

this should be in music.
i think they were just going with musical flow that was going on, wich talked about politics

[ReD_ReBeL]

What i get from it is that he speaks of a total freedom of expression(artistic freedom) like you said.
I believe he was against violence, Because cant remember which song at this moment, But at the start of there career all music and lyrics were just credited as The Doors, but the guitarist wrote a song about picking up guns, and since tht song, each song was credited to who ever wrote it. Because Jim didnt want to be accosiated with telling people to "pick up guns"
.....But heres a quote which might be against what i said , Jim sed it...

I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos-especially activity that seems to have no meaning. It seems to me to be the road toward freedom... Rather than starting inside, I start outside and reach the mental through the physical.

The most important kind of freedom is to be what you really are. You trade in your reality for a role. You give up your ability to feel, and in exchange, put on a mask.

[Alejandro C]

I don't see him as against violence at all. Alot of his work has violent undertones; and I'm sure he could see that violence has a big part in art. for example:

Have you forget the lessons of the ancient wars?
I touched her thigh and death smiled.

Whip the horses eyes until it sleeps
and cries.

Where are the feasts that we were promised.

He opened 'the end' live with the phrase 'bring out your dead' over and over.
I think he saw death and brutality as an essential part of art. I've hear he used to get himself into a writing frenzy by taking acid and chanting 'kill the father fuck the mother' over and over.
And the original ending to his famous first song (moonlight drive):
Its easy to love you as I watch you die.

I think his politics were nothing to him. He was an artist, not a politician posing as such. I doubt he had any strong views on anything political which in that time is extremely rare for a person like him.

[Fodman]

Originally posted by Alejandro C+March 25, 2007 04:28 pm--> (Alejandro C @ March 25, 2007 04:28 pm)'kill the father fuck the mother'[/b]
i think he was just quoting Freudian analysis when he said this

he also said at the end of 'The End' "kill, kill, kill" - repeatedly - I don't think this resembles a desire to be violent though - just him being artistic and experimental

Alejandro [email protected] 25, 2007 04:28 pm
Whip the horses eyes until it sleeps and cries.
the song 'Horse Latitutes' is about when horses used to be thrown off a ship and left to drown, just because there was too much weight on the ship. In this sense, he is against violence

the quote you provided isn't from theis song, but it reminded of it.

Sorry, I should have put this in the music section - I didn't see it beofre when I made this thread

[Angry Young Man]

I read that his dad was an admiral. I think his freedom was sort of based on Blake. He often quoted Blake's phrase "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."
He was probably more of a hippy than a commie. Jimi Hendrix is better!

[Fodman]

what was Hendrix then?

[Angry Young Man]

Fuck knows. He's better though.

I believe he said something like: "The power of love will reign once the love of power is deposed."

[iwwobblie]

Originally posted by The Weatherman+March 25, 2007 02:51 pm--> (The Weatherman @ March 25, 2007 02:51 pm)
Alejandro [email protected] 25, 2007 04:28 pm
'kill the father fuck the mother'
i think he was just quoting Freudian analysis when he said this

[/b]
He was talking about Oedipus here.