BORAT

[Red October]

who saw it and what are your thoughts on this movie?

[Phalanx]

Funniest movie I've ever seen. It's not politically correct and you'll need to have thick skin to watch it, but it's definately worth it!

[duhey11]

"WE SUPPORT YOUR WAR OF TERROR"

that movie was hilarious and so true

[RebelDog]

I say it last week, its well worth seeing. Borat is fantastic.

[lonebullet]

Amazingly funny! well worth the wait. Sasha Cohen plucks at the insecurities of all americans.

[BreadBros]

I saw it too, it was fucking hilarious. Im not gonna ruin it for anyone, but to those that have seen it all Im going to say is: National Mortgage Bankers Association Meeting. That whole part had me shitting myself laughing.

[Dr Mindbender]

I found it very funny too, but the only thing which worries me is what this is doing to anglo-khazak relations. Apparently the Khazak people are fucking furious.
That said,The thing which pisses me off is the middle class 'what what' armchair critic brigade are up in arms calling it racist, anti-semitic, sexist etc. Fair enough, its full of purile humour but anyone who thinks the film is any of the above either hasnt seen it or is completely missing the point.

Anyone reckon he'll make a 'Bruno' movie? Bruno is probably my favourite Sachen Cohen character, I particulary like the interview where hes talking to an anti-gay evangelist and he starts talking to him in German about anal sex but of course he hasnt a clue what he's saying! :D

[Red October]

maybe he'll make a bruno movie considering he's already done 2 out of 3 characters from his show...but i dont know how you can make a whole movie out of bruno.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Red October [email protected] 07, 2006 01:05 pm
maybe he'll make a bruno movie considering he's already done 2 out of 3 characters from his show...but i dont know how you can make a whole movie out of bruno.
Just have a couple of hours of him interviewing and flirting with unwitting homophobes and taking the piss out of trendies like he usually does. It'll be just as funny as Borat.

[RebelDog]

National Mortgage Bankers Association Meeting

I don't remember that in it! What bit was that?

[Red October]

National Mortgage Bankers Association Meeting


I don't remember that in it! What bit was that?

during the "special" wrestling at the hotel

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2006 03:23 am
that movie was hilarious and so true
No, it wasn't.
I agree that Borat is fucking hilarious... but there is nothing truthful about the movie or his portrayal of Kazakhstan.

[Enragé]

im probably going to see it this thursday

[KC]

No, it wasn't.
I agree that Borat is fucking hilarious... but there is nothing truthful about the movie or his portrayal of Kazakhstan.

He was talking about how it's true that the Iraq war is a war of terror, not the movie in general.



I'm surprised that we all haven't been banned by Malte for being anti-semitic for liking this movie.

[The Grey Blur]

I can see how Americans might find the film hilarious but for anyone who watched his show on a regular basis in Ireland or Britain will know most of the basic jokes. Still quite good though, I just think it could have been used for a bit more than just the usual love found/love lost (with an undoubted humorous twist) story. Still a very funny film and especially if you haven't heard of Borat before it'll be totally hilarious.

Chegui

[Patchd]

Oh, that was fucking hilarious..."so is it a cat in a hat?", I've memorized O'Kazakhstan (the made up anthem)...yes, I am that sad. The scene with the naked wrestling was probably the best; "eat my arsehole!!!"

[Forward Union]

Some classic moments in that film.... :lol:

[Patchd]

Originally posted by Love [email protected] 10, 2006 09:36 pm
Some classic moments in that film.... :lol:
Did you notice how long the Sascha Baron Cohan's censored "dong" was? I think he asked them to do that, it couldn't have been that long, :lol:

[Hegemonicretribution]

I skipped most the thread for fear of spoliers....I am the only person in my block not to have seen this yet. I have heard nothing but positives so far, and there were parts of the older stuff that I liked anyway (in Cambridge for example).

[Patchd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2006 10:17 pm
I skipped most the thread for fear of spoliers....I am the only person in my block not to have seen this yet. I have heard nothing but positives so far, and there were parts of the older stuff that I liked anyway (in Cambridge for example).
I have a friend who lives in Cambridge, he used to go to the university but now he works there.

[lithium]

I thought Borat was hilarious. I went with a few friends (who were stoned at the time - they were in stitches during the ads at the start).

I think it hilighted a lot of prejudices that are found in America, and I think that the way people were so shocked by the film just shows how uptight so many of us are. We need to just sit back and have a laugh at ourselves and our "political correctness".

[Red October]

I agree that Borat is fucking hilarious... but there is nothing truthful about the movie or his portrayal of Kazakhstan.

i think duhey was referring to cohen's exposure of racism and bigotry in america, as no reasonable person could believe the things he says about kazakhstan.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

Best comedy in the world :D

Funny part is that in some of the scenes, the people he came up to werent actors and actually thought he was a real reporter from Kazakstan (Like with the Random People in Subway, NY Streets, and the Gangsters)

[IronLion]

Definitely the funniest movie I've ever seen. No other movie has made me laugh non-stop like that.... I can't wait for Bruno (my favorite SBC character)

[ReD_ReBeL]

ive still got to see this. but i've saw all the TV skits he has done and thy r bloody amazing. funny thing is Sascha is a jew in real life haha.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2006 03:53 pm
Best comedy in the world :D

Funny part is that in some of the scenes, the people he came up to werent actors and actually thought he was a real reporter from Kazakstan (Like with the Random People in Subway, NY Streets, and the Gangsters)
Most of the people didn't know he was actually Sascha Cohen.

[Phalanx]

I recommend watching the movie twice. I just saw it again last night for the second time and it only got funnier!

[Dyst]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I will definately as I like what I've seen of Borat.

"My mom is dead.. high 5!"

and

"Throw the jew down the well"

and

"Do you want to touch my khrom?"

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

i pretty much laughed so hard for the entire length of the film it was getting painful.

i loved that bit when he talks too the feminists, ithink they were somthing like "veteran feminists of america" or somthing.

and borat keeps going "c'mon smile for the camera" or somthing :lol:

[Haligonian Red]

But is it racist?

You fall into the "anti-PC" crowd and you find some pretty strange bedfellows. All "PC" means or ever meant is it's not ok to be a racist/sexist/homophobic idiot anymore.

I know it's funny, but I'm still not convinced it ought to be...

[Comrade Marcel]

Yes, there has been a lot of discussion about this on various listserves.

I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters. I don't think it's bad to laugh at these things when we realize it is phony and have a real conciousness about the reality of the material in question.

The problem is many ameriKans don't have this conciousness.

[Okocim]

I thought it was crap, but certainly exposed a hell of a lot about the views of many americans.

[Severian]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 14, 2006 06:25 pm
I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters.
If we accept that: isn't he reinforcing a stereotype about Americans, then? A kind of chauvinism increasingly promoted by Washington's imperial rivals in Europe.

There's also class and regional prejudices being reinforced; the assumption by East- and West- coast middle-class types that midwestern and southern rural people are "rednecks" and "white trash." - ignorant, racist, etc.

Apparently the people in Cohen's movie show this by going along with his asshole "Borat" character instead of instantly punching him in the nose. It's kinda appropriate, then, that somebody has finally punched him out.

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by Severian+November 15, 2006 12:54 am--> (Severian @ November 15, 2006 12:54 am)
Comrade [email protected] 14, 2006 06:25 pm
I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters.
If we accept that: isn't he reinforcing a stereotype about Americans, then?

[/b]
Who cares? ameriKans aren't exactly an oppressed minority, are they?


A kind of chauvinism increasingly promoted by Washington's imperial rivals in Europe.

So what? ameriKans are the ones enjoying it the most anyways. I bet most of the millions this movie makes will be made in the U$. And I highly doubt it is going to start an imperialist war.


There's also class and regional prejudices being reinforced; the assumption by East- and West- coast middle-class types that midwestern and southern rural people are "rednecks" and "white trash." - ignorant, racist, etc.

These already exist anyways. Blaiming Borat for using material already common to the culture is useless, don't you think? Cohen didn't invent these stereotypes.


Apparently the people in Cohen's movie show this by going along with his asshole "Borat" character instead of instantly punching him in the nose. It's kinda appropriate, then, that somebody has finally punched him out.

People threatened to punch out Cohen in a few of his characters, big deal. A lot of people are more restrained on camera, but the question isn't how tempered ameriKans are, we are talking about whether or not Borat is racist. It's kind of sad when the best arguement you can come up with against Borat is to defend people living and benefitting in the most globally oppressive nation in the world, I must say.

[BreadBros]

Originally posted by Severian+November 15, 2006 12:54 am--> (Severian @ November 15, 2006 12:54 am)
Comrade [email protected] 14, 2006 06:25 pm
I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters.
If we accept that: isn't he reinforcing a stereotype about Americans, then? A kind of chauvinism increasingly promoted by Washington's imperial rivals in Europe.

There's also class and regional prejudices being reinforced; the assumption by East- and West- coast middle-class types that midwestern and southern rural people are "rednecks" and "white trash." - ignorant, racist, etc.

Apparently the people in Cohen's movie show this by going along with his asshole "Borat" character instead of instantly punching him in the nose. It's kinda appropriate, then, that somebody has finally punched him out. [/b]
You do realize he had a television program where he spent years doing the same thing to the British populace right? And that his first movie "Indahouse" was set in Britain? Beyond his HBO show this is his biggest take on America, so I don't think its chauvinist as hes doing it in Europe too. As for why he doesnt do it in central and other parts of Western Europe, my guess would be language barriers, hes only a comic afterall. Hopefully in the Bruno movie he can go home to his "native" Austria. And yes, there will be a Bruno movie, according to news reports studios are bidding on it already.

[drain.you]

Bloody hilarious film. And as some of you know, i work at a cinema so i've seen it quite a few times now and the jokes around the workplace have seriously improved in quality since we got the film :)

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by Severian+November 15, 2006 12:54 am--> (Severian @ November 15, 2006 12:54 am)
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 14, 2006 06:25 pm
I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters.
If we accept that: isn't he reinforcing a stereotype about Americans, then? A kind of chauvinism increasingly promoted by Washington's imperial rivals in Europe.

There's also class and regional prejudices being reinforced; the assumption by East- and West- coast middle-class types that midwestern and southern rural people are "rednecks" and "white trash." - ignorant, racist, etc.

Apparently the people in Cohen's movie show this by going along with his asshole "Borat" character instead of instantly punching him in the nose. It's kinda appropriate, then, that somebody has finally punched him out.[/b]

When "Borat" first appeared, a few years ago in Da Ali G Show, his initial targets were upper-class Englishmen ... and women. (Upper-class in the old fashioned sense.) And, the character Borat would do and say things that would make them look silly.

Before that, the character "Ali G" had done exactly the same ... just with a different style and set of targets. Generally speaking, Ali G's targets were old farts who'd look silly when he'd add a load of drug references to their conversations.

I've not seen the new film, and all I've seen from his trip to America is the "throw the Jew down the well" piece. But, to be honest, the targets may of changed but I don't think it's an attempt to "reinforce" anything. I mean, if anyone takes this seriously and bases their opinions on this kind of stuff, then I don't think their "prejudices [are] being reinforced" ... rather, they are so firmly rooted that they don't need any reinforcement.

That is, I don't think "Borat" could be blamed if anyone walks out of this film thinking "those Southerners are really daft". Because their problems, simply aren't that superficial.

As for the class prejudice, all popular media reinforces that in some way or another. If anything, that a dope smoking unemployed fella' with no formal qualifications -- the character Ali G -- could make a few members of the social elite look really fucking stupid, should be seen in a positive light.

All in all, I really doubt the social impact of this film is worth that much attention. After all, it's hardly going to "define an era"!


Comrade Marcel
Who cares?

Internationalists.

[Pawn Power]

The Crazy Kazakh Correspondent (http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2877/)

[Red October]

did anyone see the ali g interviews with james baker, marlon fitzwater, and c. everett koop? brilliant material.

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by Amusing Scrotum+November 15, 2006 02:19 am--> (Amusing Scrotum @ November 15, 2006 02:19 am)
Comrade Marcel
Who cares?

Internationalists. [/b]
What exactly does internationalism have to do with defending ameriKan culture?

[Edelweiss]

I'm surprised that we all haven't been banned by Malte for being anti-semitic for liking this movie.

Oh shut up, KC! I actually can differ anti-semitism from a well done piece of satire. Unlike you, I guess.

I'm gonna watch Borat soon.

Cohen is Jewish BTW.

[IronLion]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2006 03:48 am

I'm surprised that we all haven't been banned by Malte for being anti-semitic for liking this movie.

Oh shut up, KC! I actually can differ anti-semitism from a well done piece of satire. Unlike you, I guess.

I'm gonna watch Borat soon.

Cohen is Jewish BTW.
A good number of people at the theater seeing Borat were Jewish (myself included)....

Ah, Sacha is a genius......drawing in the Jews & the Anti-Semites....brilliant! lol

[Pirate Utopian]

funniest movie ever, especially the scene where he fighs that guy naked or when he is in the house of the jewish couple and he finds out where he is

[Phalanx]

Originally posted by Severian+November 15, 2006 12:54 am--> (Severian @ November 15, 2006 12:54 am)
Comrade [email protected] 14, 2006 06:25 pm
I don't think Borat is racist per-se, and I think that Cohen is actually trying to reveal the ignorance of ameriKans by super-imposing the stereotype, which he does with all of his characters.
If we accept that: isn't he reinforcing a stereotype about Americans, then? A kind of chauvinism increasingly promoted by Washington's imperial rivals in Europe.

There's also class and regional prejudices being reinforced; the assumption by East- and West- coast middle-class types that midwestern and southern rural people are "rednecks" and "white trash." - ignorant, racist, etc.

Apparently the people in Cohen's movie show this by going along with his asshole "Borat" character instead of instantly punching him in the nose. It's kinda appropriate, then, that somebody has finally punched him out. [/b]
You take the fun out of the funniest movie I've ever seen.

Don't look too far into the movie, it doesn't have depth, it's purpose is shallow humor.

[Guerrilla22]

At first glance it might seem as though he's making fun of Kazakstahn for being a backwards country, but what he actually exposes is how backwards people in the US are, like that guy at the rodeo who responded "that's what we're trying to get done here," when Borat said that they hang homosexuals in Kazakstahn.

[duhey11]

Originally posted by Red October [email protected] 10, 2006 11:51 pm

I agree that Borat is fucking hilarious... but there is nothing truthful about the movie or his portrayal of Kazakhstan.

i think duhey was referring to cohen's exposure of racism and bigotry in america, as no reasonable person could believe the things he says about kazakhstan.
well that too lol

but what i actually meant was its true that the iraq war is a war OF terror

[Comrade J]

I saw this movie last week, I actually really enjoyed it (as I expected to) and I&#39;ll be sure to <s>download</s> buy it soon... :unsure:

I&#39;d love to know how he got the permission from some of the people to show them on the film (I&#39;m presuming he legally had to?), especially the guy who said they want to get homosexuals hung in America too <_<
Perhaps he made them sign a form for the movie but they didn&#39;t realise it would be a popular international release.

I can&#39;t really see it working so well abroad in non-English speaking countries, as a lot of it is to do with language and his pronounciation. For instance, when he is eating dinner with some bourgeois scum and one says he is retired, and Borat says "you are retard?"

[Hiero]

It is a funny movie. Bit unfair on Kazakhstan.

[Janus]

Bit unfair on Kazakhstan.
:lol: Yeah, it&#39;s kinda bad for Kazakhstan that Sasha Cohen picked it as his target for satire.

[Pirate Utopian]

he could not pick Uzbekistan instead, they are assholes :)

[Entrails Konfetti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2006 08:01 pm
At first glance it might seem as though he&#39;s making fun of Kazakstahn for being a backwards country, but what he actually exposes is how backwards people in the US are, like that guy at the rodeo who responded "that&#39;s what we&#39;re trying to get done here," when Borat said that they hang homosexuals in Kazakstahn.
Exactly&#33;
And also how he poked fun of the upper-class at the dinner party when he brought his bag of shit to the table and asked "what do I do with this?". These people are so serious that they&#39;re fucking gullable.

If people can&#39;t see that Borat is making fun of the stereotype Yankee have on Eastern Europeans then thats their own problem-- they should loosen their anooses up with a roobber feest&#33;

[Anton]

yeah saw it yesterday and ;laughed my ass off. I am a Jew and the girl I was with actually grew up in Kazakhstan so I think it was extra funny because of that.
What I am pissed off about now is that the Bahamas Christian Board censored the movie over here in the theaters. I watched a cam rip before i saw it in the movies and here they cut out the gay parade in NY and the whole wrestling bit. And they didn&#39;t even try it to make the editing professional because you actually saw when the movie just jumped. Fucking hypocrites.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

HIGH FIVE&#33;&#33;

[Patchd]

Originally posted by EL KABLAMO+November 28, 2006 12:31 am--> (EL KABLAMO @ November 28, 2006 12:31 am)
[email protected] 16, 2006 08:01 pm
At first glance it might seem as though he&#39;s making fun of Kazakstahn for being a backwards country, but what he actually exposes is how backwards people in the US are, like that guy at the rodeo who responded "that&#39;s what we&#39;re trying to get done here," when Borat said that they hang homosexuals in Kazakstahn.
Exactly&#33;
And also how he poked fun of the upper-class at the dinner party when he brought his bag of shit to the table and asked "what do I do with this?". These people are so serious that they&#39;re fucking gullable.

If people can&#39;t see that Borat is making fun of the stereotype Yankee have on Eastern Europeans then thats their own problem-- they should loosen their anooses up with a roobber feest&#33; [/b]
"Its fine I&#39;ve sent for the sheriff already"-Southern lady
"Why has the retard escaped?" -Borat
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Vladislav]

Damn sounds awesome.I still haven&#39;t seen it.

wowaaweewaa

[Pirate Utopian]

"i think those men were homsexual"
"so your saying the guys who stuck a rubber fist in my anus were homsexual?" :o

[celtopunk]

This was the funniest thing I&#39;ve ever seen and I&#39;ve seen quite a bit. I&#39;ve NEVER laughed so much during a movie.

[Ze]

"give me your tears, gypsy."

[oihane]

Is anyone reluctant to say that this movie was not worth any currency payed to see it?

[Red October]

what you talking about, vanilla face?

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2006 01:14 am
yeah saw it yesterday and ;laughed my ass off. I am a Jew and the girl I was with actually grew up in Kazakhstan so I think it was extra funny because of that.
What I am pissed off about now is that the Bahamas Christian Board censored the movie over here in the theaters. I watched a cam rip before i saw it in the movies and here they cut out the gay parade in NY and the whole wrestling bit. And they didn&#39;t even try it to make the editing professional because you actually saw when the movie just jumped. Fucking hypocrites.
I didn&#39;t know that kind of censorship existed in the Carribean...

Does this Christian Board hold weight with the government; or who exactly enforces the censorship?

[Djehuti]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 07, 2006 01:45 pm
The thing which pisses me off is the middle class &#39;what what&#39; armchair critic brigade are up in arms calling it racist, anti-semitic, sexist etc.
Oh, what a surprice... The middle class are fucking afraid of everything.



I loved it. It might very well be the funniest movie i&#39;ve ever seen, I rarely stopped laughing in the theatres. :D

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2006 02:44 am
It is a funny movie. Bit unfair on Kazakhstan.
Agreed.

The film definately has flaws, but during the naked wrestling scene i laughed longer and harder than i have in a long time, and possibly ever whilst at the cinema sobre&#33; :P

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by Black Dagger+November 30, 2006 03:31 pm--> (Black Dagger @ November 30, 2006 03:31 pm)
[email protected] 28, 2006 02:44 am
It is a funny movie. Bit unfair on Kazakhstan.
Agreed.

The film definately has flaws, but during the naked wrestling scene i laughed longer and harder than i have in a long time, and possibly ever whilst at the cinema sobre&#33; :P [/b]
That&#39;s basically exactly what I was going to say.

Although afterwards I found out that the village is actually a real, very poor village in Romania, and that the villagers got paid fuck-all for appearing in the film, and feel like they were ridiculed. :/ That&#39;s really shitty. Fuck the frat boys (they deserve whatever they get), give the villagers the money.

[EwokUtopia]

It isnt Mysogynistic, Antisemitic or Antiziganistic because thats all satire, and its damn funny satire too. The only problem I have (which I can ignore because I like to laugh) is the stereotypes it potentially creates for the Kazahk people. But it is funny seeing how Americans have no clue that Kazahks are not actually like that.

[Patchd]

Originally posted by Mujer Libre+November 30, 2006 09:42 pm--> (Mujer Libre @ November 30, 2006 09:42 pm)
Originally posted by Black [email protected] 30, 2006 03:31 pm

[email protected] 28, 2006 02:44 am
It is a funny movie. Bit unfair on Kazakhstan.
Agreed.

The film definately has flaws, but during the naked wrestling scene i laughed longer and harder than i have in a long time, and possibly ever whilst at the cinema sobre&#33; :P
That&#39;s basically exactly what I was going to say.

Although afterwards I found out that the village is actually a real, very poor village in Romania, and that the villagers got paid fuck-all for appearing in the film, and feel like they were ridiculed. :/ That&#39;s really shitty. Fuck the frat boys (they deserve whatever they get), give the villagers the money. [/b]
Yeah, I heard that the villagers from that Romanian village are sueing whoever made the film for exploiting them, as they said.

[Concept]

my wife she dead...HIGH FIVE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
or
my moustache tasted like ur testes for 1 week

rotflmao....funniest movie i&#39;ve seen in awhile...huge fan of Da Ali G Show also
like others have said...ppl need to stop being so uptight and just have a laugh
if u laugh it doesn&#39;t make u rascist or anything....its ok...lol

[R_P_A_S]

I just watched this movie and it made me wonder how many white people talk shit about me behind my back amongst their buddies. Some of this fucking people are sick.

do you guys think this is good? that this guy exposes how racist and ignorant people are?

[Mujer Libre]

There&#39;s a topic on Borat already, with quite a bit of discussion. Here you go:
Borat&#33; (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=58293&hl=borat)

[Angry Young Man]

I found it amusing his complete lack of social graces at dinner with the etiquette woman. He shit&#39;s in a bag.
What is quite optimistic is that some people do shy away from his comments. At least it shows that they&#39;re not all bigots&#33;
There was a TV series as well. Most people got really nervous but one bloke in TX at a shooting range or somewhere went on his own tirade against jews&#33; How the fuck did Sacha Baron Cohen keep a straight face? :lol:
This bloke even praised Hitler, ffs&#33;

[Prairie Fire]

I originally was quite opposed to this movie, seeing as it protrays slavs as socially backwards, Male Chauvenist, supersticious anti-semites. I also thought that it took a pessimistic outlook on Socialism in the former USSR. On closer inspection, it doesn&#39;t take any stabs at soviet socialism, and is actually quite useful in portraying how socially ass-backwards many Americans are.

Now I&#39;m conflicted. It is kind of interesting how Cohen can really bring the anti-semitism right out of people like that. Watch the TV show especially.

Also, the part where he&#39;s trying to abduct Pamela Anderson, as twisted as it is, is too funny. :lol:

[R_P_A_S]

sorry i made an other thread aboout BORAT. i actually looked around before i posted it. hmm.

[R_P_A_S]

I would like to kno what happened to these people when they saw themselves on film?
like all the racist bastards and homophobic. etc.

[RASHskins]

I heard there is a number of lawsuits against cohen so i think that is what they are doing.

[Red October]

i loved borat. alot of people call it stupid, but i enjoy it when someone makes racists look like fools for the whole world to see.

[R_P_A_S]

i think those people with their little dinner party are true bastards. please&#33;&#33; they fucking called the Sheriff just cus Borat showed up with a prostitute? fuck rich bastards

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 05:34 pm
i think those people with their little dinner party are true bastards. please&#33;&#33; they fucking called the Sheriff just cus Borat showed up with a prostitute? fuck rich bastards
and they lived on "secession drive". thats a little clue about their attitudes towards minorities.

[R_P_A_S]

i hope this idiots see them selves on tape and realized how fucked up and sick they are.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

well the guys in the Van have brought law suits against Borat i think.

[Fawkes]

Though I thought the movie was somewhat condescending and arrogant, I still loved it. I know that there are a bunch of lawsuits against Cohen and the production company spearheaded by the group of fraternity boys that claimed that slavery should be reinstated.

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 09:07 pm
sorry i made an other thread aboout BORAT. i actually looked around before i posted it. hmm.
&#39;Tis cool- just thought you might be interested in the other thread, cos I remember it being quite long and stuff. :)

[ReD_ReBeL]

Also, the part where he&#39;s trying to abduct Pamela Anderson, as twisted as it is, is too funny.

You sure that part was real? Cause the way she ran away with her arms flapping in the air looked like such a crappy actress run lol.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 11:21 pm
well the guys in the Van have brought law suits against Borat i think.
Yea I read about that&#33; What a bunch of fucktards&#33; :lol: Yea we want to sue the makers of this film for filming us as we are, which we gave consent to&#33; I mean honestly, how do they have a leg to stand on? They&#39;ll have had to give consent for them to be filmed, and they made tits of themselves&#33; Cretins.

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 09:07 pm

Also, the part where he&#39;s trying to abduct Pamela Anderson, as twisted as it is, is too funny.

You sure that part was real? Cause the way she ran away with her arms flapping in the air looked like such a crappy actress run lol.
No, that part was obviously staged. If it was real, she would not have ran away, she would have ran into the protection of her body guards.


Yea I read about that&#33; What a bunch of fucktards&#33; laugh.gif Yea we want to sue the makers of this film for filming us as we are, which we gave consent to&#33; I mean honestly, how do they have a leg to stand on? They&#39;ll have had to give consent for them to be filmed, and they made tits of themselves&#33; Cretins.
They claim that some of the cameramen got them drunk at a bar prior to asking them to sign the contract which would make them not of a sound mind at the time of the signing, though I don&#39;t know what implications that would have.

[Morello]

I think some of that movie is really Sacha messing with people ( such as when he tries to " say hello " to people on the streets and chases a white-collar nerd guy down the street. ) Some parts of the movie just couldn&#39;t be improvised, such as the Jew Bed and Breakfast. And Sacha would be in more trouble then bad reviews if he tried to abduct Pamela Anderson. So I think it&#39;s scripted with some scenes of improv.

[RedArmyFaction]

I thought it was really funny. The best part was when Borat kept breaking all the antiques in the shop &#33;&#33;&#33; haha. I was laughing for days

[A-S M.]

running of the jew...

man even if I think about it I laugh my ass of

[Pirate Utopian]

I like this movie, I like sex, is nice&#33;

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 07, 2006 12:45 pm
Apparently the Khazak people are fucking furious.
With good reason. I am not Khazak, and I couldn&#39;t stand more than ten minutes of such bigotted trash. It is infuriating.

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by Haligonian [email protected] 14, 2006 11:10 pm
I know it&#39;s funny, but I&#39;m still not convinced it ought to be...
It is not funny. It is stupid, racist and bigotted. And infuriatingly so.

Luís Henrique

[Red Scare]

its great cus it shows how racist and pigheaded southern rightwingers are.... besides being funny that was also the purpose of the film

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by Luís Henrique+June 25, 2007 02:59 pm--> (Luís Henrique &#064; June 25, 2007 02:59 pm)
Haligonian [email protected] 14, 2006 11:10 pm
I know it&#39;s funny, but I&#39;m still not convinced it ought to be...
It is not funny. It is stupid, racist and bigotted. And infuriatingly so.

Luís Henrique[/b]
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[Vanguard1917]

Those people arguing that this film is insulting to Kazakhs have missed the point of the film. The film says very little about Kazakhstan or the Kazakh people (Borat doesn&#39;t look or sound particularly Kazakh, he speaks a mixture of Polish and Hebrew, and lives in Romania). If the film did say something of substance about Kazakh people, it would not work. The film works because it appeals to and takes advantage of already existing Western liberal middle class prejudices about the American masses.

The film is a statement about how backward and bigotted certain sections of white America supposedly are - from the perspective of the smug, middle class Western liberal. If there is any group in society that you can get away with openly ridiculing, a group that you can legitimately make the butt of your jokes, it&#39;s those &#39;stupid&#39; white American masses - the &#39;white trash&#39;. Aside from the fact that it is obviously a very funny film by a very gifted comedian, Borat was a hit with Westerners because it cleverly exploited these pre-existing prejudices.

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By the way, has everyone seen Kazakhstan&#39;s answer to Baywatch?

Sexydrownwatch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zICYfF3d6t0)

[redcannon]

i didn&#39;t really think the movie was that funny. certainly not funnier than beerfest. i was kind of dissapointed to be quite honest.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 25, 2007 05:39 pm
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Nevermind what intellectualised excuses may be made for that shit, it is rich western people making fun of supposedly miserable and backwards Central Asians - making fun of them because they are poor.

As if Western policies had nothing to do with Khazakstan&#39;s problems...

Maybe it is OK for you first-worlders. I am a third-worlder, and I did not find it anyway funny. Sick bastards, they rob us and they have to deride us on top of it?&#33; They may take all their smug Western superiority and shove it right up their white, supposedly clean, arseholes. :angry:

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 06:07 pm
Those people arguing that this film is insulting to Kazakhs have missed the point of the film.
That may well be. As I said, I barely watched ten minutes of the whutering crap; I almost attacked physically the screen with that arsehole joke about the old woman; and I quit before I went really mad when Bore-at mistook the lift for his hotel apartment. I can&#39;t stand this level of obscene prejudice.

Luís Henrique

[Devrim]

Originally posted by Vanguard1917
Borat doesn&#39;t look or sound particularly Kazakh, he speaks a mixture of Polish and Hebrew, and lives in Romania
Really, and there was I thinking that he was Sacha Noam Baron Cohen, an English actor, who lives in London.
There are a few amusing points in the film, notably when he confronts people with friendliness on the streets on NYC.

There are bits which come across as quite &#39;radical&#39; even, the whole &#39;I support your war of terror&#39; speech.

There are bits that to me come across as quite racist, notably comments about Kazakistan. One could argue that it is parody. One of the problems with parody is that it is so different to tell if things are parody, or just normal right wing shit nowadays.

Devrim

[Vanguard1917]

That may well be. As I said, I barely watched ten minutes of the whutering crap; I almost attacked physically the screen with that arsehole joke about the old woman; and I quit before I went really mad when Bore-at mistook the lift for his hotel apartment. I can&#39;t stand this level of obscene prejudice.

Luís Henrique

Fair enough; i guess those are valid reasons for being put off by his humour.


There are bits which come across as quite &#39;radical&#39; even, the whole &#39;I support your war of terror&#39; speech.

But i think this is the real prejudice which the film&#39;s appeal is based on: the smug liberal middle class prejudice against the rightwing, warmongering &#39;white trash&#39; masses.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 09:54 pm
But i think this is the real prejudice which the film&#39;s appeal is based on: the smug liberal middle class prejudice against the rightwing, warmongering &#39;white trash&#39; masses.
Racism à brasileira: the bourgeois hire Joe Doe as janitor, and tell him to keep "inappropriate" people (*wink, wink, nudge, nudge*) away. And Joe Doe keeps "inappropriate" people away for weeks, months, and years, without anyone questioning it. Then someday Joe Doe tells the ambassador from Ghana to go away, there is a scandal, Joe Doe is fired, and the arseholes who hired him and told him to keep "inappropriate" people away have the face to comment Joe Doe&#39;s racism and ignorance. Perhaps they even write to the newspapers to complain about the educational system, that doesn&#39;t teach people how to behave properly... :wacko:

In this particular case, the bourgeois arseholes have been too indiscreet about their own prejudices to sound credible in questioning white trash southerners...

Luís Henrique

[Pirate Utopian]

Cheer up pussyface, smile a bit&#33;

[Eleftherios]

Originally posted by Big [email protected] 26, 2007 12:45 pm
Cheer up pussyface, smile a bit&#33;
Yeah, seriously, I think some people just need to lighten up

[Tommy-K]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 07, 2006 12:45 pm
That said,The thing which pisses me off is the middle class &#39;what what&#39; armchair critic brigade are up in arms calling it racist, anti-semitic, sexist etc. Fair enough, its full of purile humour but anyone who thinks the film is any of the above either hasnt seen it or is completely missing the point.
As you say, they are missing the point entirely. The film was supposed to highlight the flaws in American society and the ridiculousness of their regime, which I think the film was very successful in doing.