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Ian
30th August 2002, 09:56
Fetishism of Commodities (in case you did not know) is a Term coined, I believe, by Marx in the Capital. If you want a good definitition of it check out http://www.marxmail.org/faq/fetishism.htm
Here is an excerpt
On The Fetishism of Commodities (Wallace Shawn)

One day there was an anonymous present sitting on my doorstep -- Volume One of *Capital* by Karl Marx, in a brown paper bag. A joke? Serious? And who had sent it? I never found out. Late that night, naked in bed, I leafed through it. The beginning was impenetrable, I couldn't understand it, but when I came to the part about the lives of the workers -- the coal miners, the child laborers -- I could feel myself suddenly breathing more slowly. How angry he was. Page after page. Then I turned back to an earlier section, and I came to a phrase that I'd heard before, a strange, upsetting, sort of ugly phrase: this was the section on "commodity fetishism," "the fetishism of commodities." I wanted to understand that weird-sounding phrase, but I could tell that, to understand it, your whole life would probably have to change.



His explanation was very elusive. He used the example that people say, "Twenty yards of linen are worth two pounds." People say about every thing that it has a certain value. This is worth that. This coat, this sweater, this cup of coffee: each thing worth some quantity of money, or some number of other things -- one coat, worth three sweaters, or so much money -- as if that coat, suddenly appearing on the earth, contained somewhere inside itself an amount of value, like an inner soul, as if the coat were a fetish, a physical object that contains a living spirit. But what really determines the value of a coat? The coat's price comes from its history, the history of all the people who were involved in making it and selling it and all the particular relationships they had. And if we buy the coat, we, too, form relationships with all of those people, and yet we hide those relationships from our own awareness by pretending we live in a world where coats have no history but just fall down from heaven with prices marked inside. "I like this coat," we say, "It's not expensive," as if that were a fact about the *coat* and not the end of a story about all the people who made it and sold it, "I like the pictures in this magazine."



A naked woman leans over a fence. A man buys a magazine and stares at her picture. The destinies of these two are linked. The man has paid the woman to take off her clothes, to lean over the fence. The photograph contains its history -- the moment the woman unbuttoned her shirt, how she felt, what the photographer said. The price of the magazine is a code that describes the relationships between all those people -- the woman, the man, the publisher, the photographer -- who commanded, who obeyed. The cup of coffee contains the history of the peasants who picked the beans, how some of them fainted in the heat of the sun, some were beaten, some were kicked.



For two days I could see the fetishism of commodities everywhere around me. It was a strange feeling. Then on the third day I lost it, it was gone, I couldn't see it anymore.
End of Excerpt

Well Anyway, Do you think Fetishism has increased recently or has it been the same since the 'advent' of capitalism?

You may be thinking, 'Huh? Why the long post with the small question Ian?' Well quite bluntly, this is as much for me to learn this as it is for us all to discuss it!

PS. How do you change the font color? I've been using HTML and It hasnt worked!

PunkRawker677
30th August 2002, 20:14
Whoa.. what an excellent post.. im suprised no one has responded to this yet. I definitly believe that their has been an increase in the "fetishism of commodities" in the past decades especially in america. The exchange value has completly overwhelmed the use-value.. no one cares about use-value anymore.. a sports car that will last two years is all of a sudden worth more to a person then food, or family, or friends..

Conghaileach
30th August 2002, 21:12
Consumerism is definitely on the rise. People are judged more now by what they have in their possession than ever before.

Oh, and on the colour part...
[ color=pink]pink
[ color=blue]blue

Ian
31st August 2002, 01:12
I am definately going to put this into my new life outlook (I made that up when I started reading about communism, I changed my whole perspective, It is from the term new world outlook, a view that Marx and Engels wanted to form and pretty much suceeded in doing so, Charles Darwin's theory was the basis of this after Marx read Darwin's book).
What you said about the car got me thinking about a lot of things, such as what is the use of buying a new computer if it's going to become obselete pretty fast, why not just use the trusty old one? Oh well!