Best Martial Arts for Revolutionaries?

[LebaneseCommunistParty]

What's a good kind of martial art to learn. I was thinking of Ai Ki Do but it seems too self defense like...Or Ju Jitsu but i don't know if any place in lebanon would teach ju jitsu....

Anyway whats the best one to learn?

[RASHskins]

I think kickboxing/Muay thai is a pretty effective Martial art to learn. You should be able to find a place to teach at least one of those two. My reason's for those two are because thay are a standup martial art and you always spar in lessons not jsut learn kata's which are pretty damn useless in a real fight. Ju Jitsu is cool but i don't know about street fighting with it. YOu could get them on the ground but say they had a free hand with a knife they could easily stab you. And ju jitsu is only effective against 1 person at a time and you might be outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1. I wouldn't advise sticking around for more than 3 people unless you are a amazing fighter. Besides doing ju jitsu on concrete isn't very fun, you might hurt yourself more than the other guy. Any martial arts with throwing techniques are at least worth it to learn a few throws. I wouldn't depend on them though. Id say good striking and blocking is most vital to winning a streetfight.

[Janus]

It really depends on the situation and for what reasons you want to learn said martial art. If you're just looking for basic self-defense techniques then just look up a reality-based self-defence course. If you're more interested in traditional forms, etc. then look into kung fu or karate.

[RASHskins]

I think what he means by by martial arts for revolutionaries are arts that are pratical for real fights. Im not saying karate and kung fu can't be effective but there is definately alot better arts out there for pratical fighting.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 11:50 pm
I think what he means by by martial arts for revolutionaries are arts that are pratical for real fights. Im not saying karate and kung fu can't be effective but there is definately alot better arts out there for pratical fighting.
If someone is going to learn some of the more complicated martial arts, they just need to practice the techniques and make sure they're comfortable using them in a real fight. It takes more practice and skill to use a spinning backfist in a fight than a straight punch, so one needs to train the spinning backfist more and more to be able to use it. That's my opinion, but I haven't done martial arts in awhile so I should take my own advice and start training again.

[RASHskins]

Manic expression let me ask you this though. If you had the choice to end a fight with a straight punch which is more pratical (and easier to get back into blocking posistion), or use a spinning backfist which for a split second leaves the whole back of your body turned to an opponent which would you choose. Complicated martial art techniques are beautiful if done correctly but id hardly suggest using them in a real fight unless you are fighting someone very inexperienced.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 02:06 am
Manic expression let me ask you this though. If you had the choice to end a fight with a straight punch which is more pratical (and easier to get back into blocking posistion), or use a spinning backfist which for a split second leaves the whole back of your body turned to an opponent which would you choose. Complicated martial art techniques are beautiful if done correctly but id hardly suggest using them in a real fight unless you are fighting someone very inexperienced.
The backfist would only be part of a fighter's arsenal, and the question is if the fighter can use it at the right time. It's not an either-or choice. So it doesn't come down to straight punch vs. backfist, it comes down to using your punches at the right time and using your backfist at the right time (if it ever comes, that is).

What I'm trying to say is that training a technique to the point where you're comfortable with it in a real fight is different from trying to do stuff that you can't really pull off.

To be honest, if you're going to get into a fight, GO FOR THE EYES AND THE EARS. Eye jabs and ear slaps are your best friends, that's what I was always taught.

[ExpansiveThought]

From what i've been able to find out about them, the Russian martial arts such as Systema seem very practical and also as though they provide the trainee with thorough physical conditioning and mental toughness. Also they deal with mass attacks and unarmed vs armed etc.
In any case the throat is also an effective area to attack, as well as the kneecaps.

[Comrade Marcel]

There is a few threads about this already, do a search.

I would definitely recommend Systema (Ryabko/Vasiliev) for learning how to deal with mass attacks/breathing/relaxation, calmness and coping with stress/anxiety in an action scenario, as well as self defense skills.

However, I would advise you that Systema does use a lot of "soft" work for takedowns and such, and you really need to know when to use them and when not. I would always consider taking more than one martial art.

I persynally break it down a bit like this:

Takedowns/stand-up grappling: Judo/Wrestling
Standup striking: Just about anything - (Kick)Boxing, Wushu/Kung-Fu/Sando, Muay Thai, Karate, MMA, etc. anything that incorporates contact sparring.
Kicking: Taekwondo, Capoeira, Savate, Karate
Groundwork: Sambo, BJJ, MMA, Submission Fighting, Catch Wrestling
Softwork: Systema, Akido, Akijitsu, Samoz,
Dirty fighting/Combative/All round/Eccentric: Systema, Krav Maga, Defendo/Defendu/Combato/(any military H2H System), Combat Sambo, Jeet Kun Do, Hapkido,
Weapons: Filipino Martial Arts (there are all sorts of others, but FMA is the most popular and available, and also teaches a wide range of practical weapons: sticks and knives of different sizes. Don't bother learning weapons that you won't use, like Katana, knuchukus, sai, or some other eccentric thing and expect it to be useful. Consider it recreational only if you do.)

If you could only take one system to start out, then it should be something that is going to give you a decent background in everything. So, either MMA, Systema, Krav Maga, Combatives, Sando/Sanshou (Basically the Chinese Wushu version of MMA) or Combat Sambo, for example, would cover at least a little bit of everything above (except weapons).

Afterwards, you may decide you want to specialize a little more in the other areas, and complement yourself a bit at a time.

Keep in mind, this is just a very small list and breakdown and martial arts variate many ways. See the list of martial arts on wikipedia and study them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_martial_arts

[seraphim]

The best martial art is Pencak Silat it's an indonesian martial art and all the techniques involve resolving the situation ASAP . All the techniques that have been passed on work because if they didn't you died, simple really. It's not showy just leathaly effective.

[RaiseYourVoice]

Krav Maga, Combatives, Sando/Sanshou (Basically the Chinese Wushu version of MMA) or Combat Sambo, for example, would cover at least a little bit of everything above (except weapons).
my krav maga school teaches armed fighting :wub:
(in civil krav maga we have training with stuff around you, like ashtrays, keys etc. and also some knife and stick fighting, of course the military and police version do more, but you need to be in the military or police to go there ^^)


i dont know though, how popular it is in libanon since it started off as an israli military system

[Comrade Marcel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:40 am

Krav Maga, Combatives, Sando/Sanshou (Basically the Chinese Wushu version of MMA) or Combat Sambo, for example, would cover at least a little bit of everything above (except weapons).
my krav maga school teaches armed fighting :wub:
(in civil krav maga we have training with stuff around you, like ashtrays, keys etc. and also some knife and stick fighting, of course the military and police version do more, but you need to be in the military or police to go there ^^)


i dont know though, how popular it is in libanon since it started off as an israli military system
That's interestring, I knew that KM would at least deal with defense against weapons but I had no idea that some of them taught weapons usage. Cool.

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