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Delta
21st March 2007, 05:29
Has anyone here seen these films? If so, what did you think?

Also, know of any torrents available for them? I'm trying to DL them from a different source, and if that works out I'll make a torrent to seed but it's slow going....maybe in a week.

manic expression
21st March 2007, 08:24
I've seen Reds and I thought it was great. It's a bit slow at times and some viewers may be turned off by its tempo, but it really is a solid movie in many ways. Aside from the (stellar) acting and directing, it is well written and well researched, and there are many scenes which are just brilliant (especially for leftists). I liked it, but make sure that you approach it with an open mind (and be ready for a slower storyline).

Sorry, I don't know of any torrents for Reds.

manic expression
22nd March 2007, 16:42
I just found a few videos of "Reds" online. Both scenes are in two parts.

SPOILER WARNING

Scene 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ-_Koqlczk...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ-_Koqlczk&mode=related&search=)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D-uvrYkluM...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D-uvrYkluM&mode=related&search=)

Scene 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUV82eslVkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPXZb5kPUl4...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPXZb5kPUl4&mode=related&search=)

Delta
26th March 2007, 04:09
La Commune is now available for download via torrent:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3647744/La_Commune

Mujer Libre
26th March 2007, 07:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 26, 2007 03:09 am
La Commune is now available for download via torrent:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3647744/La_Commune
Cheers. Will add that to the video resources thread (or whatever I decided to call it <.<).

Budapestkick
28th March 2007, 14:54
Reds has a truly brilliant line by (i think) Zinoviev
"Ah John, Have a lemon. Keeps away the scurvy"

Pawn Power
28th March 2007, 15:03
I enjoyed Reds. It was just as much a love story as it was anything else though. Which doesn&#39;t necessarily make it worse.

Louis Pio
30th March 2007, 11:35
Reds are a good film, they could however have cut down on the love scenes. Not that I have anything against lovescenes in movies but it takes up way to much time in this one

gilhyle
8th April 2007, 00:42
La Commune was an amazing film - I absolutely loved it. Its really long - seven or eight hours or something (saw it a long time ago, cant remember) - but its such a serious film. Not Hollywood at all. Not really about The Commune, really about a group of actors trying to put The Commune in their heads and understand it as something important and comprehensible.

Saw it at a showing in a French Film Festival - we got a break in the middle to eat little snacks paid for by the French embassy....its a weird world. :P

Reds is not bad - noble effort; the documentary clips within it are quite interesting. The scene with Zinoviev is the best thing in it - its supposedly Reed the romantic coming face to face with the reality of revolutionary politics as he is translated (falsely) as calling for a Holy war when he speaks at the Baku Conference.

In fact Reed didnt get to give his speech at the conference for lack of time. He did make a short earlier intervention, which included the following

"American capitalism is trying to establish a monopoly of oil. On account of oil, blood is being spilt. On account of oil a struggle is being waged in which the American banker and the American capitalists attempt everywhere to conquer the places and enslave the people where oil is found......As soon as the Eastern Peoples rise in revolt, the last foundations of capitalism will collapse and then the peoples will endeavour to create a social order in which not only oil but everything produced by human hands will belong to the toilers (applause)"


How times ......change .....

Severian
8th April 2007, 01:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 05:42 pm
The scene with Zinoviev is the best thing in it - its supposedly Reed the romantic coming face to face with the reality of revolutionary politics as he is translated (falsely) as calling for a Holy war when he speaks at the Baku Conference.

In fact Reed didnt get to give his speech at the conference for lack of time. He did make a short earlier intervention, which included the following

"American capitalism is trying to establish a monopoly of oil. On account of oil, blood is being spilt. On account of oil a struggle is being waged in which the American banker and the American capitalists attempt everywhere to conquer the places and enslave the people where oil is found......As soon as the Eastern Peoples rise in revolt, the last foundations of capitalism will collapse and then the peoples will endeavour to create a social order in which not only oil but everything produced by human hands will belong to the toilers (applause)"


How times ......change .....
Yeah, that&#39;s a bit of Hollywood rewrite of history there. Nobody needed to mistranslate Reed&#39;s speech to make it more militantly anti-imperialist, it was strongly anti-imperialist already.

There is a story Reed told about some British delegate (probably Quelch (http://www.marxists.org/history/international/comintern/baku/ch04.htm)) having his timid speech at Baku possibly punched up by a translator. He tells it as a humorous anecdote.

And the movie makes this into a huge thing, with Reed supposedly enraged at the Bolsheviks for "changing my words&#33;" just like some AFL sellout once did.

Big ol&#39; Hollywood fabrication.