5 DIFFERENCES BEETWEEN COMMUNISTS and ANTICAPITALI

[das]

5 DIFFERENCES BEETWEEN COMMUNISTS and ANTICAPITALISTS

1. Communist is for the destruction of private ownership of the means of production and statement of the public property. Anticapitalist is for "reasonable limitations" of private property and / or its state regulation.
2. Communist divides society into classes and considers the policies, ideology and culture as a space of continuous class contradictions resulting from the economic base : the dialectic of productive forces and production relations. Anticapitalist sees in politics, ideology and culture is no more than a space in which he can find abundant evidence of deadlock of the capitalism.
3. Communist chiefly sees new subject of the future revolutionary transformation of society exactly in the proletariat - in the working class. Anticapitalist regards as a such subject a historical personalities, nation, in general, anyone or anything, but not self-organized proletariat.
4. Communist knows that the transition to a society more progressive than capitalism, is possible only through the dictatorship of the proletariat and the gradual disappearance of the State. Anticapitalist thinks that the transition to a society more progressive than capitalism is possible in other ways and methods: from the good political will of the ruler, the heroic efforts of the nation, small incremental evolutionary improvements, in general, in anything but not through the dictatorship of the proletariat. Anticapitalist crave for society without capitalism, but is not aware of a society without the State.
5. Communist studying capitalism as naturally present social-economic form of the interaction of people and expressed his contempt for the mode of production and form of society, rather than individuals within the governing classes. Anticapitalist not studying capitalism as naturally present social-economic form of human interaction, he is only suggests some glaring facts to nourish by them hatred to the ruling class.

Author's site: www.kommunism.org
English version: www.kommunism.org/eindex.htm

[Raúl Duke]

Communist knows that the transition to a society more progressive than capitalism, is possible only through the dictatorship of the proletariat and the gradual disappearance of the State.

This statement is wrong because their are some communists who do not see it that way; Like the anarcho-communists, libertarian marxists, and some left communists.

Also why are you posting this?

[das]

The point is that anyone "who do not see it that way" is not the communists in the true sense of the word! (the orthodox marxism. I mean, for example, the "Principles of Communism".)

The message I wish to show contrast communists from other currents, like "anarcho-communists, libertarian marxists", because : orthodox marxism today needs to be protected from these currents. (Marx's fight with Bakunin has not ended by their both death, but only worsened).

Also I want to contact with english-speaking revlefts and to train my bad English

[BreadBros]

I think the only part that isn't translating well is what you mean by "anticapitalists". Does this refer to some specific set of theory or grouping in Russia? In the West it generally is used as a broad label for a variety of leftists, i.e. Marxists, anarchists, utopian socialists, reformists, etc. who are in opposition to capitalism in general. Therefore its difficult to pinpoint exactly what points of theory are specific to "anti-capitalism" since its so broad.

[sexyguy]

ONLY HE IS A MARXIST who extends the recognition of the class struggle to the recognition of the dictatorship of the proletariat. This is the touchstone on which the real understanding and recognition of Marxism is to be tested. V.I. Lenin

[Djehuti]

You can't really be a serious anti-capitalist if you are not a communist (or some ultra-reactionary wacko). Communism is proletarian anticapitalism, and abolishing capitalism must mean abolishing private property and the commodity relations.

[Janus]

What's your definition of anti-capitalism? It's an extremely broad term.

[RNK]

Well, some fascists are anti-capitalist.

I think he's simply trying to defend orthodox Marxism from many of the other "denominations" and "additions" that people like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, etc, have created (ie, he's trying to differentiate between Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, etc, and push the idea that these are not Marxism). Which I don't agree with. That's just my perception of what he's trying to say.

[Djehuti]

What's your definition of anti-capitalism? It's an extremely broad term.


That you want to abolish capitalism? (universal commodity production based on wage labour)




Well, some fascists are anti-capitalist.

I do not agree.

[das]

Anticapitalists are the members of any currents, that come out in defence of:

1."reasonable limitations" of private property and / or its state regulation.
2. a new subject of the future revolutionary transformation : historical personalities, nation, state in general, anyone or anything, but not self-organized proletariat.
3. other ways and methods to reach the new society: from the good political will of the ruler, the heroic efforts of the nation, to the small incremental evolutionary improvements, in general, anything but not through the dictatorship of the proletariat.
4. society without capitalism, but not society without the state.
5. production of goods in new society.

Thats why many fascists, leninists, stalinists, libertarian marxist, social-democrats are anticapitalists but not what's more, not communists, although some of them with confidence calls themselfs "communists". You know, not any cat has right to call himself a tiger.

[Janus]

That you want to abolish capitalism? (universal commodity production based on wage labour)
That doesn't simplify anything and not all anti-capitalists want to permanently abolish it. Anti-capitalist can define a wide variety of political tendencies.


Thats why many fascists, leninists, stalinists, libertarian marxist, social-democrats are anticapitalists but not what's more, not communists, although some of them with confidence calls themselfs "communists".
By all definitions (even yours), libertarian Marxists are considered communists. The whole term was created as a means to delineate from Leninists.