Help with Views

[Rev29]

I would like some help with my Political Views.

ok what would this classify me as?
I believe in a society
Were people do work, cause it needs to be done.
However if someone dosent do work or commits crimes, gets nothing and is punished.
They have a leader, but is only really there to give direction... and dosent hold any real power the people do. And im for equality.
Also im not fond of a Goverment, Political Parties, Capitalism, Stalinism, Nationalism, Monarchy, or a money based economy.


Thanks.

[Whitten]

any of a number of possible versions of communism.

[Fodman]

However if someone dosent do work or commits crimes, gets nothing and is punished
is this communism?? i certainly don't think so...

[Pirate Utopian]

a socialist form of minarchism

[Whitten]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 12, 2007 08:06 pm

However if someone dosent do work or commits crimes, gets nothing and is punished
is this communism?? i certainly don't think so...
Ofcourse its communism. "From each according to his ability"

[Aurora]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 05:05 pm
I would like some help with my Political Views.

ok what would this classify me as?
I believe in a society
Were people do work, cause it needs to be done.
However if someone dosent do work or commits crimes, gets nothing and is punished.
They have a leader, but is only really there to give direction... and dosent hold any real power the people do. And im for equality.
Also im not fond of a Goverment, Political Parties, Capitalism, Stalinism, Nationalism, Monarchy, or a money based economy.


Thanks.
Comrade its best not to ask people to categorize you.You should decide yourself what ideology makes sense to you.

A good idea might be to have a look at some introductory texts for Anarchism and Marxism and decide which you think is correct then look into it a bit further.

[The Grey Blur]

I would agree witth what Anarion said but I would also add that you should get active in any way that you can, practice often reveals our true political tendencies.

Good luck.

[Rawthentic]

How so PR? Did your practice make you a Trotskyist? Explain.

[The Grey Blur]

I'm not totally sure what I am to be entirely honest. I started of as an uncritical Irish nationalist but I drifted more and more towards Socialism from hearing of James Connolly, reading about Che Guevara and frequenting this board.

Two comrades from this board, Makavele and Tiocfaidh Ar Lá (who live in the same area), got active with Socialist Youth and once I was fifteen I joined them. Even at this point I was a very vague Socialist but I was eager to learn and as I talked to many older comrades in Socialist Youth as well as the Socialist Party I became more and more convinced that Socialism was the way forward. Before this point I had had certain vague ideas on Anarchism but my practical experiences meant I saw the bankruptcy of ultra-leftism for my own eyes (tiny, sectarian and utopian).

I read the Manifesto and became a Marxist and began debating nationalist friends which helped confirm my views that the nationalists in Ireland offer the working-class nothing. I believe that Ireland should be united but that only the oppressed classes can bring this unity about. This would require unity regardless of religion and a working-class movement, such as that envisaged by Connolly or Bobby Sands.

I've been active in any different campaigns now, with Socialist Youth or without them, and I have learned a lot of practical stuff from this (don't go postering on your own on a windy day for example :lol: ). I've made lots of friends as well, not just comrades which is one of the best things about it.

Being active has brought me into contact with the class conscious layers of the working-class as well and whenever I am down I think of these experiences and people and this helps me strive to work harder towards Socialism. This must be emphasised because being an activist isn't always inspiring, a lot of the time it can be depressing to battle the apathy of society today and your work will not always be fun. But like I said, the working-class is awakening from it's slumber - it can be witnessed on every stall Socialist Youth do that we are getting a bigger and better response.

Being active in Socialist Youth also meant I had access to a huge library of Marxist literature and I am working my way through it at the moment, with the basic works of Marx, Lenin, Connolly, Trotsky and others as a basis. I also read certain Anarchist texts as well such as those of Durutti or Malatesta whom I greatly respect. This has added greatly to my theoretical basis and means I am equipped to deal with different political situations.

I do not consider myself a "Trotskyist". I think of myself as a Marxist, plain and simple and someone committed to achieving the worker's revolution through involving myself in the day-to-day struggle.

I find that 90% of people's political attitudes change once they become active and engaged in the class struggle. I hope that in some way helps in what I am describing.

[Rawthentic]

Sure as hell does comrade. What kinds of actions do you do? I am in the process of organizing a school walkout, but I want to organize directly with workers, even though I hold no job. What do you propose? I am a Communist League member, but I am a lone comrade. Some tips would help. Thanks

[The Grey Blur]

First off, find yourself a comrade! :lol:

You could do this alone but finding just one comrade would make the whole thing a lot easier. Try and be up front (though not pushy) about your political views and see if any liberal heads poke up and take notice. Even political music is a good way to find comrades.

Secondly, decide what your realistic aims.

At this point I think you just want to get your basic ideas out, yes? The walk-out you propose is an extremely good idea. If you can you should try and get some posters made up, the CL should provide resources or advice to go about this (and if not just DIY one and photocopy it), and spread them about the school. Then just talking to your fellow students and even low-level staff would be a good idea. If you get a decent response then go for it!

Thirdly, keep it up

It is always difficult to begin, especially if you are the lone commie in your school or area (I respect you for that), but you should remember that you only need to get lucky once, the bosses and apathetic drones have to be lucky all the time. Even gaining one comrade from this sort of exercise would be a victory. I remember a comrade from Socialist Youth described to me how their branch in a town began with a school walk-out and one member which doubled, then doubled again and doubled again so you could be on the brink of success.

This is a very rough guideline, I must admit I have only been part of one walk-out and it was entirely spontaneous. Love Underground is a very experienced member and has given much better advice than me, you should probably PM him as well for ideas or advice.

Lastly, a plug: http://www.socialistalternative.org/ :D

Some miscellanaeous stuff:


What kinds of actions do you do?
Everything! Weekly stalls, film screenings, postering, leafletting, pickets, talking to people and many varied campaigns of a pro-Socialist type.


I want to organize directly with workers, even though I hold no job
Concentrate on the working-class students in your school at first.

[Rawthentic]

Your help is greatly appreciated comrade, thanks for that. I will try my best to make this is a success. If not, then at least I have something to build on.