What am I?

[E4 Anarchist]

Hello everyone.

Before I started posting and getting on, I was just wondering if people could help me describe my Political Views?

Im against Capitalism,
Im against Communism,
Im against Nationalism,
Im against the Monarchy,
Im against all Political Parties,
Im against Democracy.

What does this actually make me, its not an Anarchist is it?
Im against being Ruled over by a Government, would rather be without a system.


Without negative or silly replies..... can someone catergorise my views?

Thanks a million :D

[Pirate Utopian]

Anarcho-Capitalist. restriction applies

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

how are you defining Communism, anarchism, democracy and political parties?

[Whitten]

What does this actually make me, its not an Anarchist is it?
Im against being Ruled over by a Government, would rather be without a system.

I'm afraid that would make you an anarchist of some variation. Perhaps you'd prefer the term Libertarian?


Im against Capitalism,
Im against Communism,
Im against Nationalism,
Im against the Monarchy,
Im against all Political Parties,
Im against Democracy.

What exactly are you for? lol

When you say "against communism", what exactly do you mean? Against leninism or the Soviet Model? Or against socialist economics in general?

How do you feel the economy should be run?

[Whitten]

Originally posted by E4 Anarchist+March 12, 2007 02:29 pm--> (E4 Anarchist @ March 12, 2007 02:29 pm) Im against Capitalism, [/b]

Big Manifesto
Anarcho-Capitalist. restriction applies

right...

[RedAnarchist]

You can't be for Anarchism and against Communism as Anarchism is a form of Communism - you can, however, be pro-Anarchist and anti-Marxist.

[MrDoom]

Im against Capitalism,
Im against Communism,
Im against Nationalism,
Im against the Monarchy,
Im against all Political Parties,
Im against Democracy.

Anti-societal primitivist. Without any kind of social structure or decision-making mechanism, humans are just animals running around with arbitrary relations to one another.

[Whitten]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 02:38 pm
You can't be for Anarchism and against Communism as Anarchism is a form of Communism - you can, however, be pro-Anarchist and anti-Marxist.
Anarcho-capitalists and Mututalists (i think) are against communism.

[E4 Anarchist]

Im against the forms of Communism which dictate that the world is our country and every man our brother, Im against all that equality stuff. The only principle I think I agree with is that the people should rule.

I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families.

As for other Parties, I mean Labour and Conservatives and all them other misfits who want to govern us for their own purposes .ect

Im against ALL Political aspects other than where the people should rule and do what they want by their own laws.

Is this probably a form of Anarchism?

[MrDoom]

Im against the forms of Communism which dictate that the world is our country and every man our brother, Im against all that equality stuff. The only principle I think I agree with is that the people should rule.

I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families.

Indeed, he is a primitivist anti-human.

[Whitten]

Originally posted by E4 [email protected] 12, 2007 02:45 pm
Im against the forms of Communism which dictate that the world is our country and every man our brother, Im against all that equality stuff. The only principle I think I agree with is that the people should rule.

I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families.

As for other Parties, I mean Labour and Conservatives and all them other misfits who want to govern us for their own purposes .ect

Im against ALL Political aspects other than where the people should rule and do what they want by their own laws.

Is this probably a form of Anarchism?
anarcho-primitivist.

Thats considered an opposing ideology here

[RedAnarchist]

You seem to have some very confused views. For instance,


Im against the forms of Communism which dictate that the world is our country and every man our brother, Im against all that equality stuff. The only principle I think I agree with is that the people should rule.

Equality is a big part of Communism, as is internationalism.


I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families.

This sounds very primitivist to me.


Im against ALL Political aspects other than where the people should rule and do what they want by their own laws.

And I think this would be considered libertarianism.

[MrDoom]

Im against ALL Political aspects other than where the people should rule and do what they want by their own laws.

So what happens when one man's "law" legalizes open murder and rape?

Such anti-human drivel would be the effective end of our species.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by TAKN
This sounds very primitivist to me.

Its not primitivist at all, primitivists dont argue that everyone should just 'fend for themselves' - what E4 is advocating is somekind of ultra-libertarianism; it's not libertarian capitalism because he says he oppose capitalism but its not libertarian communism (or primitivism) because he says he oppose communism and equality... in essence he seems to be advocating the popular misconception of what anarchism 'is' - an anarchic society ruled by the 'survival of the fittest' i.e. "I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families."

[RedAnarchist]

sorry, my mistake.

[Raúl Duke]

in essence he seems to be advocating the popular misconception of what anarchism 'is'

If this is the case, than I suggest that he should go to learning and learn real anarchist theory.

[E4 Anarchist]

So Im ultra-libertarianism..... can something explain this a bit more for me please?

[Black Dagger]

Well i just made up that term ;)

For starters, libertarians emphasises anti-statism (or at least an emphasis on minimal government, i.e. minarchism) and autonomy, people being allowed to do what they want as long as it doesnt impinge about the freedom of others.

There are left and rightwing variants of libertarian philosophy (anarchism/libertarian communism vs. right libertarianism [often termed simply 'libertarianism']/minarchism/'anarcho-capitalism') The former being anti-capitalist and the latter being pro-capitalist.

You're obviously some kind of liberatarian... but you also seem to position yourself outside of these usual liberatian tendancies.

On the one hand you oppose communism... by this do you mean state capitalism/socialism as in the USSR etc? Or actual communism, as in a stateless classless society?

I assumed you meant the former, but then you said you oppose 'equality'; is this true? That you don't care about social equality between humans? If yes that would rule out left libertarianism.

This is where it gets mirky.

If you oppose social equality between humans - you cant be a left libertarian, an anarchist or libeterian communist - but you ALSO claim to oppose capitalism, so you cant be a rightwing libertarian.

The reason why i called you an 'ultra-libertarian' as it seems from what you've said here so that you just want an anarchic (libertarian in a broad sense) society - but you dont want it to be based on social equality, co-operation etc. OR economic competition and class (capitalism)... so what then?

Well you said, 'I dont think there should be an Economy..... think it should be pulled down and we should all fend for ourselves and Families."

Which lends itself to notions of 'anarchy' in the popular sense, meaning chaos - essentially that there is no predominant social order - capitalist or not.

But he's the thing, why oppose capitalism if you dont care about equality? Because you just want human society to break down into a inter-communal conflict and some kind of neo-'darwinian' struggle?

What you're advocating lends itself directly to the restoration of capitalism (which you said you oppose)... and eventually some sort of state structure (which you said you oppose), so i find your views contradictory to say the least.

[LSD]

You're a political nihilist.

Welcome to Opposing Ideologies.

[colonelguppy]

uneducated.

[Ander]

I sense a bit of Social Darwinism in his ideas as well.

Overall that was pretty wild.

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by Big [email protected] 12, 2007 10:33 am
Anarcho-Capitalist. restriction applies
How the fuck is he a lifestylist-capitalist, when he said he was against capitalism?

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 10:42 am

Anarcho-capitalists and Mututalists (i think) are against communism.
They arn't Anarchists.

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 10:48 am
anarcho-primitivist.

Thats considered an opposing ideology here
Primitivist fucks, have nothing to do with Anarchism.

[RedCeltic]

Originally posted by E4 [email protected] 12, 2007 09:29 am
Hello everyone.

Before I started posting and getting on, I was just wondering if people could help me describe my Political Views?

Im against Capitalism,
Im against Communism,
Im against Nationalism,
Im against the Monarchy,
Im against all Political Parties,
Im against Democracy.

What does this actually make me, its not an Anarchist is it?
Im against being Ruled over by a Government, would rather be without a system.


Without negative or silly replies..... can someone catergorise my views?

Thanks a million :D
This sounds like Individualist Anarchism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_anarchism) This would also include primitivists and anarcho-capitalists... all of which are very much opposing ideologies, since only collective anarchism (anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism etc) can even attempt to work alongside Marxists.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by RC
This sounds like Individualist Anarchism. This would also include primitivists and anarcho-capitalists

Huh? IA's and primitivists dont oppose equality; that is a really bizarre classification on your part (coming from an anarchist :unsure: ) - this member sounds nothing like either of the ideologies you mentioned.

[RGacky3]

nor do they oppose inequality.

I think Individualist-Anarchist would be the best term. either that or Nihilist.

[Hiero]

LSD is right, you're a political nihilists.

[sanpal]

Originally posted by E4 [email protected] 12, 2007 02:29 pm
Hello everyone.

Before I started posting and getting on, I was just wondering if people could help me describe my Political Views?

Im against Capitalism,
Im against Communism,
Im against Nationalism,
Im against the Monarchy,
Im against all Political Parties,
Im against Democracy.

What does this actually make me, its not an Anarchist is it?
Im against being Ruled over by a Government, would rather be without a system.


Without negative or silly replies..... can someone catergorise my views?

Thanks a million :D
I know, You are "Robinson Crusoe" ;)

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 04:04 pm
nor do they oppose inequality.

I think Individualist-Anarchist would be the best term.
Er... yes they do. :wacko:

[RedCeltic]

Originally posted by black rose+March 14, 2007 12:50 am--> (black rose @ March 14, 2007 12:50 am)
RC
This sounds like Individualist Anarchism. This would also include primitivists and anarcho-capitalists

Huh? IA's and primitivists dont oppose equality; that is a really bizarre classification on your part (coming from an anarchist :unsure: ) - this member sounds nothing like either of the ideologies you mentioned. [/b]
Ahh... well sadly I don't know too much about primitivism.

BTW; I'm not actually an anarchist but close to it. I'm a "Marxist - De Leonist." Kind of the same as an anarcho-syndicalist, but with the use of a party to support industrial unionism on a political level.

Anyway, I haven't read up too much on primitivism, I had thought they just wanted to go into the woods and do their own thing... therefore aren't too concerned with the rest of us. Maybe I'm wrong.. or applying it to broadly. I never looked too into it because it isn't very appealing to me.

[Janus]

Despite whether or not anarcho-capitalists believe in equality, I'm pretty sure we can agree that it simply can't exist in practice in such a society.

[RNK]

Can we all just agree that it's the most stupid ideology ever? There. I said it.

[RedCeltic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 08:07 pm
Can we all just agree that it's the most stupid ideology ever? There. I said it.
Yeah but... doesn't that go without saying? :lol:

[RNK]

Well, that's the point... it DID go without saying... so I felt the need to say it... :D