Chrisso
10th March 2007, 12:25
As you can see I am a new user here. I registered after a few days of forum browsing, this site is excellent, particularly your Philosophy section. Anyway, I decided to let everyone here know what I am about. Take me or leave me, but make sure you read the entire post before you cast judgement. Here goes:
At roughly the age of 14 (I am 18 now) I caught a friend browsing a website known as www.***************. I had never experienced Politics before but immediately took to it. The sense of unity on the website, the lack of abuse, the very rare but decent discussions users would have in the Politics, Philosophy and Theology sections. I had never had anything like this before; at 14 my friends were more interested in alcohol experimentation and bike rides. My naivety and lack of experience lead me to register, and post there for almost 3 years.
I was always seen as an 'Uncle Tom' white on the boards. Anyone farther left than Nationalism was cast off to the Opposing Views section (Something which happened to me multiple times). Offences which would get you into that section were making arguments such as 'Africa is not as advanced as Europe due to geographical features.' - for example, in Europe we have a comfortable climate, a lot of food and animals, lots of different types of wood and stone. Africa is virtually barren; and the lack of mountains, rivers and other barriers caused continental tribalism. (That's my belief anyway).
I always stood by the 'Whites are the oppressed' argument in my naivety. I had been called a 'White ****' on occasion by some Non-Whites for no apparent reason but nothing so insulting that I was harmed. I made sure I was never 'active' within Nationalism, despite the National Front doing their very best to 'recruit me'. I felt it was unjust and infantile to throw about insults and irritate people with fascist babble on their doorsteps. I always had Non-White friends, but I was very much a 'Nationalist'. I wanted a White continent, a Black continent etc.
However, when I was 16 it began to skew. I took a trip to lake Windermere, where it's maybe 95% White? It was the most depressing place I have ever been. It was similar to a 1960's style village. Extremely reactionary, extremely Tory and extremely xenophobic. I didn't see a non-white in over a week and the lack of cultural diversity caused me to leave on the train early - at an additional cost of £60. It made me realise that I loved different types of music. I enjoyed 'foreign' food, I enjoyed seeing non-whites in their cultural dress, and I missed seeing non-whites run their children to/from their religious meetings. It awakened in me the human desire for exploration, something I had been doing without even knowing.
I then began my A-levels. I chose Literature, History and Computing. My History teachers gradually clicked onto my more-than-Right political views, as you can do with anyone after spending time with them. My first history teacher was a die-hard Marxist-Leninist. She often said she would have pictures of him in her classroom if it was permitted. I didn't mind, infact after studying Russia and the Revolution for a year I realised it was a fantastic ideal, however flawed. I grew quite attached to Marxist theory and Leninism, but was ashamed of Stalin and what he had done to the Communist movement.
I then started work. We had quite a diverse workforce. We had Christians, Hindu's, Muslims, Atheists. (I myself am an Atheist). I enjoyed the times spent with an Asian colleague. He was a physiotherapy graduate from Brunel University; working full time to gather funds for his Masters degree. We often discussed politics and his Indian herige, aswell as my own background (Jewish, Italian and French). I loved learning about other cultures and took great enjoyment in it. However, we did get a staffmember who was 'more-than-Muslim' shall we say. He refused to serve Blacks, Jews, Sihks and Hindus because his religion did not permit it (Islam). I know a lot of Muslims and am quite well versed in their beliefs, and I don't think there is any mention of that sort of thing...
When he found out I was 1/4 Jewish he had a bit of a rant about Isreal and the criminalities of the War in the East. He also said 'Fuck the Jews' infront of a senior member of staff; however his race prevented him from being discaplined. After conversing with other staffmembers, it was revealed that he couldn't be sacked because there is a chance he will accuse the managers of racism. After I left I found out he was pushed out of work by means of irritation. Putting him down for odd shifts, asking him to do awful tasks etc. That way he left off his own back. This experience introduced me to anti-semitism, something which is rife on Stormfront. By this time, my account on Stormfront had been neglected and unused for many months.
Then I had a long chat with a close socialist friend of mine. We spoke for hours about the Right wing, and how it was wrong. It was the first time in all these years that a Leftist had actually spoken to me in a comfortable situation, as opposed to crying at me on a forum. It was enlightening and after a few days I had denounced the Right. I am from a working class background; my father is a bricklayer and my mum a painter/decorator. My entire family for 5+ generations have been farmers and engineers of some kind, occasionally in the forces. I realised current Politics was ruining the working class, dissolving the middle class and oppressing the underclasses. Long conversations with my father about the Polish-migration and the damage it had done to the building trade made me hate the Labour party. My father didn't mind at all, he liked the Polish, and being part Polish ourselves he could relate to them. He did not once blame them for coming here, he blamed the politicians for their ignorance
By this time I had turned 18, and we took a History trip to Parliment. We got the chance to meet with our MP (Phyllis Starkey). She is a Right-Wing Labour MP, a Doctor in something-or-other and represents South Milton Keynes. The meeting ended in me and her having a heated debate. I argued with her about Labour severing its roots to the working class. She pulled everything out of the hat in her defence; even tried accusing me of Anti-Polish discrimination when I brought up the Building Trade. My marxist teacher congratulated me afterwards and said I had done a fantastic job. It was there I realised I wanted to do everything in my power to fight for the people, whatever their colour or creed.
We sat in a debate, and Tories constantly made ignorant comments, alongside Labour. Liberal Democrat MP's (In their small numbers) were often ridiculed and ignored by the Parlimentry Speaker. I hated our government, I hate the governing parties and I hated Ruth Kelly with avengaence. When I got home I began browsing Leftist parties, reading manifestos, sending out e-mails. I wanted to start the fight immediately...and I was lead here.
Throughout my journey I learnt a lot. I learnt the ways the Right wing brainwash the youth, take advantage of their political naivety and inexperience. They call your mobile, they offer to meet you, they offer to pay for tickets to festivals. They do anything they can to capture your mind and turn you into a fascist drone. They promise utopias free from crime. They promise things any youth would want; they target YOU as a person. They come to your doorstep, they have rallies in deprived areas. They dig up skewed facts with no legitimate sources. They argue against the holocaust (Also known to the right as the 'holohoax'). They bombard you with crime statistics 'proving' non-whites are inferior. They are Nazis in every sense of the word.
This is why I am here. I am here for the people, for the left. I am not here for my race, or my creed or colour. I am not here to make myself feel better about my Political past. I am here for the people, for you. I am here with the aim of tackling cultural problems. I want to embrace other cultures, I want to enjoy them. I want to solve Black gang culture, not attack or condemn it. I want to address Islamic fundamentalism, not arrest it. I want to eliminate the Right, not march beside it.
Thank you for reading. I hope my experiences can be of some use to you. If I find my account banned, I know I am not in the right place. Either way, I am not a Rightist any longer.
PS: Anyone who is a member of any Left-Wing political groups in the UK, could you PM me regarding this? I would like to journey into politics as soon as possible. Thank you.
At roughly the age of 14 (I am 18 now) I caught a friend browsing a website known as www.***************. I had never experienced Politics before but immediately took to it. The sense of unity on the website, the lack of abuse, the very rare but decent discussions users would have in the Politics, Philosophy and Theology sections. I had never had anything like this before; at 14 my friends were more interested in alcohol experimentation and bike rides. My naivety and lack of experience lead me to register, and post there for almost 3 years.
I was always seen as an 'Uncle Tom' white on the boards. Anyone farther left than Nationalism was cast off to the Opposing Views section (Something which happened to me multiple times). Offences which would get you into that section were making arguments such as 'Africa is not as advanced as Europe due to geographical features.' - for example, in Europe we have a comfortable climate, a lot of food and animals, lots of different types of wood and stone. Africa is virtually barren; and the lack of mountains, rivers and other barriers caused continental tribalism. (That's my belief anyway).
I always stood by the 'Whites are the oppressed' argument in my naivety. I had been called a 'White ****' on occasion by some Non-Whites for no apparent reason but nothing so insulting that I was harmed. I made sure I was never 'active' within Nationalism, despite the National Front doing their very best to 'recruit me'. I felt it was unjust and infantile to throw about insults and irritate people with fascist babble on their doorsteps. I always had Non-White friends, but I was very much a 'Nationalist'. I wanted a White continent, a Black continent etc.
However, when I was 16 it began to skew. I took a trip to lake Windermere, where it's maybe 95% White? It was the most depressing place I have ever been. It was similar to a 1960's style village. Extremely reactionary, extremely Tory and extremely xenophobic. I didn't see a non-white in over a week and the lack of cultural diversity caused me to leave on the train early - at an additional cost of £60. It made me realise that I loved different types of music. I enjoyed 'foreign' food, I enjoyed seeing non-whites in their cultural dress, and I missed seeing non-whites run their children to/from their religious meetings. It awakened in me the human desire for exploration, something I had been doing without even knowing.
I then began my A-levels. I chose Literature, History and Computing. My History teachers gradually clicked onto my more-than-Right political views, as you can do with anyone after spending time with them. My first history teacher was a die-hard Marxist-Leninist. She often said she would have pictures of him in her classroom if it was permitted. I didn't mind, infact after studying Russia and the Revolution for a year I realised it was a fantastic ideal, however flawed. I grew quite attached to Marxist theory and Leninism, but was ashamed of Stalin and what he had done to the Communist movement.
I then started work. We had quite a diverse workforce. We had Christians, Hindu's, Muslims, Atheists. (I myself am an Atheist). I enjoyed the times spent with an Asian colleague. He was a physiotherapy graduate from Brunel University; working full time to gather funds for his Masters degree. We often discussed politics and his Indian herige, aswell as my own background (Jewish, Italian and French). I loved learning about other cultures and took great enjoyment in it. However, we did get a staffmember who was 'more-than-Muslim' shall we say. He refused to serve Blacks, Jews, Sihks and Hindus because his religion did not permit it (Islam). I know a lot of Muslims and am quite well versed in their beliefs, and I don't think there is any mention of that sort of thing...
When he found out I was 1/4 Jewish he had a bit of a rant about Isreal and the criminalities of the War in the East. He also said 'Fuck the Jews' infront of a senior member of staff; however his race prevented him from being discaplined. After conversing with other staffmembers, it was revealed that he couldn't be sacked because there is a chance he will accuse the managers of racism. After I left I found out he was pushed out of work by means of irritation. Putting him down for odd shifts, asking him to do awful tasks etc. That way he left off his own back. This experience introduced me to anti-semitism, something which is rife on Stormfront. By this time, my account on Stormfront had been neglected and unused for many months.
Then I had a long chat with a close socialist friend of mine. We spoke for hours about the Right wing, and how it was wrong. It was the first time in all these years that a Leftist had actually spoken to me in a comfortable situation, as opposed to crying at me on a forum. It was enlightening and after a few days I had denounced the Right. I am from a working class background; my father is a bricklayer and my mum a painter/decorator. My entire family for 5+ generations have been farmers and engineers of some kind, occasionally in the forces. I realised current Politics was ruining the working class, dissolving the middle class and oppressing the underclasses. Long conversations with my father about the Polish-migration and the damage it had done to the building trade made me hate the Labour party. My father didn't mind at all, he liked the Polish, and being part Polish ourselves he could relate to them. He did not once blame them for coming here, he blamed the politicians for their ignorance
By this time I had turned 18, and we took a History trip to Parliment. We got the chance to meet with our MP (Phyllis Starkey). She is a Right-Wing Labour MP, a Doctor in something-or-other and represents South Milton Keynes. The meeting ended in me and her having a heated debate. I argued with her about Labour severing its roots to the working class. She pulled everything out of the hat in her defence; even tried accusing me of Anti-Polish discrimination when I brought up the Building Trade. My marxist teacher congratulated me afterwards and said I had done a fantastic job. It was there I realised I wanted to do everything in my power to fight for the people, whatever their colour or creed.
We sat in a debate, and Tories constantly made ignorant comments, alongside Labour. Liberal Democrat MP's (In their small numbers) were often ridiculed and ignored by the Parlimentry Speaker. I hated our government, I hate the governing parties and I hated Ruth Kelly with avengaence. When I got home I began browsing Leftist parties, reading manifestos, sending out e-mails. I wanted to start the fight immediately...and I was lead here.
Throughout my journey I learnt a lot. I learnt the ways the Right wing brainwash the youth, take advantage of their political naivety and inexperience. They call your mobile, they offer to meet you, they offer to pay for tickets to festivals. They do anything they can to capture your mind and turn you into a fascist drone. They promise utopias free from crime. They promise things any youth would want; they target YOU as a person. They come to your doorstep, they have rallies in deprived areas. They dig up skewed facts with no legitimate sources. They argue against the holocaust (Also known to the right as the 'holohoax'). They bombard you with crime statistics 'proving' non-whites are inferior. They are Nazis in every sense of the word.
This is why I am here. I am here for the people, for the left. I am not here for my race, or my creed or colour. I am not here to make myself feel better about my Political past. I am here for the people, for you. I am here with the aim of tackling cultural problems. I want to embrace other cultures, I want to enjoy them. I want to solve Black gang culture, not attack or condemn it. I want to address Islamic fundamentalism, not arrest it. I want to eliminate the Right, not march beside it.
Thank you for reading. I hope my experiences can be of some use to you. If I find my account banned, I know I am not in the right place. Either way, I am not a Rightist any longer.
PS: Anyone who is a member of any Left-Wing political groups in the UK, could you PM me regarding this? I would like to journey into politics as soon as possible. Thank you.