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Supermodel
27th June 2002, 00:24
While we're on the subject of Robin Hood, how can you ignore Guy Fawkes, the original unibomber?
Did he have a point or was he just an idiot?
Was he Osama's inspiration?
Menshevik
27th June 2002, 02:53
He was against protestant persecution of Catholics and parliament enforced the persecution of Catholics. So he and several others tried to blow up the House of Commons and the House of Lords. Someone ratted them out and Fawkes was stopped just before he was about to light the fuse to the massive gunpowder cache. I still think the informer was part of an anti-Catholic conspiracy.
suffianr
27th June 2002, 05:09
He was the posterboy for pyromaniacs.
Conghaileach
2nd July 2002, 19:33
If I recall correctly, Fawkes had a brother who was a member of commons, and Guy sent him a letter telling him what they had planned and to stay away. His brother then ratted him out.
Is Guy Fawkes "celebrated" anywhere except in the Six Counties, where ignorant loyalists (who have no idea of the significance of the person) have bonfires with Guy Fawkes dolls at the top?
New Zealand does Guy Fawkes, we lack any real history of our own so we just use other peoples instead.
RedCeltic
3rd July 2002, 15:04
"Remember, Remember the 5th of November. Gunpowder Teason and plot."... and other rubish...
I think Guy Falkes day is the origin of Bonfire night in Canada. Also, the tradition of children going door to door influenced Thanksgiving in New York in the 20's when children would go door to door saying, "Anything for Thanksgiving" ( taken from give a penny for the Guy)
Later in the 50's... "Anything for Tanksgiving" became "Anything for Holloween"... now it's just "Trick or treet."
It's interesting how holidays evolve like that.
Lardlad95
3rd July 2002, 15:12
Quote: from MJM on 8:23 am on July 3, 2002
New Zealand does Guy Fawkes, we lack any real history of our own so we just use other peoples instead.
Wasn't australia originaly used as a prison island for the british...thats kinda history
I'm very disappointed lardlad that you think New Zealand and Australia are the same country.
:-(
Thats kinda what I mean, the aussies have all that cool stuff, we just have a bunch of farmers who came here and made a colony. Some people say NZ is more british than britain.
All the good stuff that happens ie. a Maori warrior cuts down the settlers flag pole, is portrayed as bad. When we should have a flag pole day or something cool like that.
Lardlad95
4th July 2002, 00:15
Yeah I'm sorry I mixed up the two
but this makes up for all those people who keep talking about Africa like its one country instead of a continent...it isn't a country people its a continent. All the people aren't the same.
And its revenge for all those moronswho,
1. think Puerto Rico is part of mexico
2. think that there is a language called Puerto Rican
Conghaileach
4th July 2002, 03:00
from RedCeltic
interesting how holidays evolve like that.
All Christian holidays are actually derived from Pagan holidays. It started with Emporer Constantine, who declared these Christian holidays over the Pagan ones so that the celebrations would go ahead as they normally did year in and year out.
So much for all that Easter and Christmas bollocks.
(Edited by CiaranB at 3:01 am on July 4, 2002)
I Will Deny You
5th July 2002, 05:42
Quote: from Lardlad95 on 7:15 pm on July 3, 2002
think that there is a language called Puerto Rican
To be fair, there is a language called Spanglish . . . ;)
Lindsay
Lardlad95
5th July 2002, 06:31
I'm aware of this, I'm half puerto rican. Which is why when people think that puerto ricans speak puerto rican and not spanich i get pissed
Supermodel
9th July 2002, 15:37
Lardlad, do you get questions about when your family "immigrated to the US" as well?
Ciaran, lump a coal for you, naughty boy!!! Bah Humbug! You won't take away my Christmas!!
HeinrichHimmler
9th July 2002, 19:12
Fawkes was an experianced explosives expert, often on the continent. Lots of questions still remain about this plot and it is widly regarded that it was a setup by the crown to make the catholics look like criminals. hence helping the country become peotestant. The gun powder used would not have blown up the building and was aken from a royal arsenal. The paperwork lost. He therefore was not a terrorist just a mercenary hired for a job and was caught red handed
Lardlad95
9th July 2002, 21:05
Quote: from Supermodel on 3:37 pm on July 9, 2002
Lardlad, do you get questions about when your family "immigrated to the US" as well?
Ciaran, lump a coal for you, naughty boy!!! Bah Humbug! You won't take away my Christmas!!
Actualy people ask my dad how he likes being a US citizen and when did he get his green card...these people aare soooo damn stupid
RebelWithACause
20th July 2002, 10:10
I think Guy Fawkes was the original hero. Unfortunately he decided to tackle his problem by killing people. He could've asked his brother to fight his cause. But I guess, even in those days noone listened when you tried to be rational.
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