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hXcPetey
25th June 2002, 22:30
i think that he was. he invented class war. he lead the poor in an uprising. that was the forming of the idea class war. was it primitive? yes, totaly in the rough, it was in the rough.

What do you think?

peaccenicked
26th June 2002, 01:02
slave rebellion is ancient history. Sparticus is probably the most famous.

Mazdak
26th June 2002, 04:10
I remember reading an article, but for those of you which saw Braveheart, you should find it interesting to note that robin hood is actually based (loosely) on the tale of Sir William Wallace, the character played by mel gibson, who used many of the methods of robin hood to win over the common folk!!!

suffianr
26th June 2002, 04:40
According to The London Dungeon's brochure, Robin Hood and his Merry Men were more than likely a coven of witches. The name "Robin" was used in folklore to denote the Devil, hence the moinker "Robin Goodfellow", and the wearing of a hood was commonly associated with magical and demonic activities. There were always 12 men, and Robin made 13, the necessary number for a coven. Feasts or Sabbaths were followed by robbing and terrorising abbots, proirs and other rich members of Society to the benefit of the poor of the neighbourhood.

Grand Sabbaths were held 4 times a year: Candlemas (Feb 2nd), Walpurgisnacht (April 30th), Lammas (Aug 1st) and Halloween (Oct 31st). Drinking and fornication were encouraged throughout Sabbaths!

Maybe Robin Hood was the first Howard Stern!!

Dan Majerle
26th June 2002, 06:51
Jesus Christ was the first revolutionary.

Lardlad95
26th June 2002, 18:07
Besides the fact that much of robin hoods deeds were exagerated the theory that he was part of a coven isn't that far off.

Alot of accounts disregard the entire give to the poor myth.

More likely Robin Hood and his "Merry" men were a band of theives.

The fact that he stole from the rich probably gave the impression that he was trying to tarnish the images of the lords and nobles who were already on bad terms with the people.

Thus people assumed he was on their side.

marxistdisciple
26th June 2002, 18:56
Coming from Nottingham I thought I might have something to add, although not a huge amount :) Robin Hood is an established figure in our history, and certain aspects of the legend have bee provable, i.e. he did rob from the rich, or it at least corresponds to documented events. The actually giving to the poor thing is a nice story, don't know if it is true though. The major oak exists in the (much dwindled) sherwood forest, and it is the oldest oak tree in the forest, over a thousand years old. I don't know how much else of the legend is correct, a lot of it fits in somewhat with nottingham history, but there is no conclusive proof.

red senator
26th June 2002, 18:59
Quote: from Dan Majerle on 6:51 am on June 26, 2002
Jesus Christ was the first revolutionary.


In what way? What action did he take?

Red Anarchy
26th June 2002, 19:07
Christ said that all men are created equal, but also that power is from God : (

Supermodel
26th June 2002, 23:31
Red Senator, according to the new testament, Jesus Christ took and initiated the following revolutionary actions:

1. Tossing the merchants from the temple.
2. Taking action and encouraging people to accept and care for the sick and elderly, the young and helpless.
3. Preaching against the established church and Roman rule, and paganism
4. Spreading the concept of giving and serving others as being more important than taking care of just yourself. E.g., the loaves and fishes, His lack of posessions, his acceptance of all kinds of people into his following.
5. Dying for what he believed in and in order to give strength and motivation to His followers to carry on His legacy.

Conghaileach
26th June 2002, 23:54
He also told the poor to accept their positions in life because they would be "rewarded in heaven".

Lardlad95
27th June 2002, 00:13
Quote: from CiaranB on 11:54 pm on June 26, 2002
He also told the poor to accept their positions in life because they would be "rewarded in heaven".

he never said accept the position. He said that those who had it hard in life but maintained faith through lifes pains would be rewaRDED

stop making it seem like he wanted the poor to be happpy being poor

Menshevik
27th June 2002, 02:56
He also believed in the equality of women (something the Church hasn't always carried out).

Mazdak
27th June 2002, 03:43
I can show quotesform the bible that show jesus saying things you might not have expected. and the first revolutioneary? How is paganism evil, it teaches respect for nature. Some practices WERE barbaric but paganism today is not evil, but a "religion" i would shose anyday over christianity

Lardlad95
28th June 2002, 18:35
when they said pagans they meant those people who practiced religions includng witch craft, the black arts, worship of the sun and stuff like that.

THey didn't reffer to the modern day "religion" of paganism.

also just because Christianity is fucked doesn't mean Jesus was.

People can believe in God and Jesus and not folow all of the churches Traditions and misinterpretations

ID2002
1st July 2002, 22:56
don't start with the Christianity vs other religions stuff**
I left Christianity years ago because of the intollerance preachers were spreading to members about world religions. I disagree with the Christians' dogmatic stance on non-believers or practisers in other faiths.

I became Buddhist, because the faith is very tollerant of all world religions, and is direct in dealing with scripture and interal affairs and it has a VERY strong socialist stance on life. They have a "no bullshit attitude" when it comes to dealing with problems inside or outside the community.