"Hollywood chicks"

[R_P_A_S]

Crazy how this is for me. I grew up in Southern Florida... where I was surrounded by rich materialistic snobs! Now I'm right down the street from Hollywood here in Southern California and well I must say that I run into and come in contact with lots of this woman who are 'addicted to shopping' all about their fashion and "product". all caught up in the whole Hollywood image, they worship celebrities and on the weekends their goals are simple, get drunk, party and try to get in the VIP and hook up with rich men, hopefully a celebrity! I even know a few personally.

I find this mentality not only shallow but sad. very out of touch. they do walk around feeling superior and they have this attitude to look down on you if you appear poor, or not hip enough. Most of this girl aren't necessarily rich. but they admire that, and want to emulated and become it.

what would happen to this type of materialist shallow woman? what can we hope from them? during and after the revolution. what category would you put em under? and do you guys know any people like this?

[Vargha Poralli]

what would happen to this type of materialist shallow woman? what can we hope from them? during and after the revolution. what category would you put em under? and do you guys know any people like this?

It extends also to Men. The theoritical reasoning according to me is just False conciousness.


they worship celebrities and on the weekends their goals are simple, get drunk, party and try to get in the VIP and hook up with rich men, hopefully a celebrity! I even know a few personally.

probably this has something to do with religion. Religious practice is very much declined but the conditions that enabled religion had not been destroyed. So God is repolaced with some Celebrity IMO and all the religious practices and ceremonies had led to
goals are simple, get drunk, party and try to get in the VIP and hook up with rich men, hopefully a celebrity

[Janus]

what can we hope from them? during and after the revolution. what category would you put em under?
A lot of it has to do with marketing, affluence, and the general way they're brought up. By smashing capitalism and radically altering the political and economic structure, I think that many of the factors that result in these kinds of mentalities would be gone.


and do you guys know any people like this?
Who doesn't?

[Ander]

I have an interesting comparison to give you, I think.

Here in Brasilia, the rich girls who go to my school are obsessed with pretty much the same things, minus the celebrities. Every weekend they dress up in expensive clothing and brands, go to clubs, get drunk, and hook up with rich guys. Then during the school week all they do is talk about going to clubs, drinking, and hooking up.

It's a cycle and I think it's incredibly sad. I just don't understand it at all.

[FOREVER LEFT]

I tell you the more I observe lthe lifestyles of people living in the United States the more I agree with Lenin that the revolution will be easier to accomplish in the Third World. I mean what is up with the people of the United States???!!! What a bunch of conceited egotistical bastards. Most of them have never even picked up a book in their lives! What a waste!

[RGacky3]

I live near hollywood as well, the Hollywood mentality, the so called New Money mentality, is so sick and twisted. People don't have real relationships, its all money, cars, plastic tits, sex, shopping and how much of it you can get, people don't have any real substance to their lives, so they need something like that to have it.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Originally posted by FOREVER [email protected] 08, 2007 06:50 pm
Most of them have never even picked up a book in their lives! What a waste! Because reading a book makes you so revolutionary!

Let people live how they want. If people enjoy going to clubs, getting drunk, and hooking up then sobeit. Just accept it that some people don't spend all their time reading Marx or Lenin and having discussions about class consciousness and how "the revolution" will work.

[RGacky3]

wait till they get past 30, and they loose some of their youth, what happens? Well generally people move on, here in Hollywood? To the plastic Surgon.

I agree with Everyday Anarchy, but if that IS your life, if that IS what you live for, your gonig to have a very sad life. Same thing goes for reading Marx or whatever.

[Political_Chucky]

Originally posted by Everyday Anarchy+March 08, 2007 05:52 pm--> (Everyday Anarchy @ March 08, 2007 05:52 pm)
FOREVER [email protected] 08, 2007 06:50 pm
Most of them have never even picked up a book in their lives! What a waste! Because reading a book makes you so revolutionary!

Let people live how they want. If people enjoy going to clubs, getting drunk, and hooking up then sobeit. Just accept it that some people don't spend all their time reading Marx or Lenin and having discussions about class consciousness and how "the revolution" will work. [/b]
Well isn't that the problem? Maybe people should pick up a few books, but doesn't have to be Marx or Lenin. First book that really started getting me politically aware was Malcolm X, and I was ALLL about money. I started slanging and all I could think about was how to get more bud to get more money so I can buy more clothes so I can get some pussy and drink and party. That was my mindset. Now, honestly, the more I have read, the more I just don't really care about those things. Rather I want money so I can survive right now and help my parents out. A person doesn't even have to spend all their time learning about class consciousness, but the phrase "ignorance is a bliss" really does work its magic in this kind of sitatuion. The happy go lucky plastics in Hollywood don't have to worry about shit rather then spend money on their clothes and fixing the uneven length of their boobs.

[Poum_1936]

I work in Hollywood and "the industry", alot of the people I run into are actually really cool and super nice. Not everyone is hell bent over the whole looking super fly with cash overflowing in your pockets.

You go to certain parts in Hollywood, such as the Sunset Strip, Hollywood/Highland, Melrose, Santa Monica Blvd. Certain key areas such as those contain alot of those people. But its also highly touristy areas which contain people from all over the country.

Not everyone in Hollywood is scum. Oh its there, plenty scummy people, but this thread is coming across as if everyone in Hollywood is that petty shallow shit you see on MTV.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by FOREVER [email protected] 09, 2007 12:50 am
I tell you the more I observe lthe lifestyles of people living in the United States the more I agree with Lenin that the revolution will be easier to accomplish in the Third World.
Lenin said Revolution would start (not be easier to accomplish) in Russia (not in the third world, a phrase that hadn't even been coined while he was alive), because Russia was the weakest link of the imperialist chain, not because the Russian workers had a deeper interior life than workers elsewhere.


I mean what is up with the people of the United States???!!! What a bunch of conceited egotistical bastards. Most of them have never even picked up a book in their lives! What a waste!

Such are the people who will make a revolution. Someone who hasn't gone internally empty still has something to loose besides their chains.

Luís Henrique

[Raúl Duke]

I find this mentality not only shallow but sad. very out of touch. they do walk around feeling superior and they have this attitude to look down on you if you appear poor, or not hip enough. Most of this girl aren't necessarily rich. but they admire that, and want to emulated and become it.

The last part about wanting to emulate and become reminds me of that book "Society of the Spectacle" (however, the book uses quite much obscurantist language, I understood or think I understood parts of it..) in which one part of (or one idea about) the spectacle in capitalist countries is that what matters is not "having" but the "appearence of having" or something like that.

In t.v., etc we are shown what we can have in this life, but only if we have money. This having seems so important, yet hard to reach; that we just emulate "having" instead.(by having in this case would be having a celebrity lifestyle or something)

However, like I said....the book is a little obscure in what it tries to say (it doesn't go directly to the point.)

[Ultra-Violence]

IM FROM L.A PEOPLE BORN AND RAISED!

yeah its sad but what can i say the fucking media and there psychological bobms the throw at people how the fuck can we compete with this massive propagand machine! FUNDED BY FUCKING RICH AS CORPORATIONS! we need propaganda machine in my opinion to compete with this mosnter THAT WE CALL MTV
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
FERGALICIOS IS ON THE RADIO AGAIN HELP ME OH KROPTOKIN PLZZ!

[FOREVER LEFT]

Originally posted by Luís Henrique+March 09, 2007 02:10 am--> (Luís Henrique @ March 09, 2007 02:10 am)
FOREVER [email protected] 09, 2007 12:50 am
I tell you the more I observe lthe lifestyles of people living in the United States the more I agree with Lenin that the revolution will be easier to accomplish in the Third World.
Lenin said Revolution would start (not be easier to accomplish) in Russia (not in the third world, a phrase that hadn't even been coined while he was alive), because Russia was the weakest link of the imperialist chain, not because the Russian workers had a deeper interior life than workers elsewhere.


I mean what is up with the people of the United States???!!! What a bunch of conceited egotistical bastards. Most of them have never even picked up a book in their lives! What a waste!

Such are the people who will make a revolution. Someone who hasn't gone internally empty still has something to loose besides their chains.

Luís Henrique [/b]
Lenin said the revolution will be easier to accomplish in the backward areas of the world---like Russia or the colonial and neo-colonial territories of the world.

[Poum_1936]

n which one part of (or one idea about) the spectacle in capitalist countries is that what matters is not "having" but the "appearence of having"

A friend of mine, who somehow developed a taste for money and everything around it over the years.

He consistently tells me random ass business advice all the time. He's obsessed with business and reads business books as much as he can.

And being the nice friend I am, I took him to the "hot shit" section of Los Angeles where the "big ballers" shop (downtown Beverly Hills, basically.) It was one of the most hilarious spectacles ever.

He kept yammering on and on and on about certain designer shit. Granted I do wear designer shit if I can find an awesome sale on it, which can be pretty easy once and a while. (i.e. $20). But non the less, my home boy was shitting bricks seeing all this designer shit (non-cheap designer shit, +100 minimum, if not thousands, just so you have a scope). And hes been studying business for a while now.

Point is "appearance of having" is everything in the world of business. Thats why the "gangtas" be rollin with upgraded cars while they have shit in the pockets. And as my friend put it, people who have money and look it are more inclined to hang out with people who look like they have money as well. Hence, appearance can be everything in the capitalist world.

Never really thought of it, but "Appearance of having" is a fantastic qoute. Because thats so much of the capitalist world.

The same friend was also telling me you can tell a mans worth from his watch. And he insistend I buy a great watch. The rest of the day I was swearing I was gonna buy a Little Mermaid Target watch. Ive never seen such hateful glares as I got upon saying that.

[Pilar]

This thread is a crack up.

Who cares about such people?

Look, when the Revolution comes, you put everyone in a line and ask them what they want to do for society. (Presuming they wish to eat.) There are plenty of people who will have done nothing but leach. Off to the farms with them! Not as a punishment to them...not to laugh at them...but to place them in that area where they can contribute and pull their weight.

The beauty of such a Revolution is that it wouldn't ask them how many times they went shopping of Rodeo Drive, but what they can do for fellow citizens.

If they say they can shop in a posh environment, dress like a model, and fuck like a porn star, the response by the communtiy has to be, "Here's a hoe, ho. Go plant some radishes. Then, when you're done, fuck all the guys you want. You won't have men buying you Victoria's Secrets, or Christian Dior, or Channel, but please, work that body of yours anyway you please. And see you tomorrow for another two hours of community harvest time."

Then we'll see how superior they feel.