52% of America is Anti-Semetic

[ILoveShrub]

I recently read that 52% of America is Anti-Semtic. American rights are be stolen almost everyday.Along with the news that Europe is sliding once again to the Right. I fear that the world once again become a playground for fascism.

[Rob]

where did you hear/read this fact?

[ILoveShrub]

I read this in my local newspaper.And as corporate as it may be. This sounds about right with my personal experience. The figures were something like 32% had anti-semetic inclinations and 20% were hard core anti-semetic.

[man in the red suit]

what? only 52 percent?

(Edited by man in the red suit at 7:03 am on July 28, 2002)

[The Ax]

Hey,
Facism is always ready to rear its ugly head, but i'm sure that after the current 'rise of the right' there will be a leftist fightback for the people. I pray so anyway.

The Ax

[Lardlad95]

Bullshit, the people could care less.

Racism has become so blatant now that people dont even care anymore

[Field Marshal]

what was your local newspaper called? Just want to see it for myself.

[Xvall]

That's Nice and all.. To bad they didn't note that probably 60% of the country is Anti-Islamic. Hell, they don't even care if you're Moslem or not. If you're skin is dark enough, you're a potential target.

[Hattori Hanzo]

racism is engulfing the world...
it is sneaking up in us, beware- it may be in your own home ;) come on guys, we all know that the right is growing stronger...the left can do so also if we're careful about bush

[Reuben]

that is pretty terrible anti-semitsim is als o etting worse here in Br tiain and europe. Recently a young jewish boy eneded up in hospital, wqhile another was attacked with a metal bar. A synagogue has also been burnt down with a swastika spray piainted at the front.

[Lardlad95]

See, i knew the world was going backwards. Racism is spreading like a fucking epidemic.

I'm telling you pretty soon the the world will be ripe for revolution, people wont stand for this....eventualy

[timbaly]

How many people were polled for this survey? What part of the US was this poll taken in?

(Edited by timbaly at 9:27 am on July 5, 2002)

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from timbaly on 11:26 pm on July 4, 2002
How many people were polled for this survey? What part of the US was this poll taken in?
Those are damned good questions. Don't somewhere around two thirds of Americans support Israel? I don't know any anti-semites who do, so the number of people who support Israel should obviously be lower than the number of people who are not anti-semitic. It was probably conducted by the ADL, which claims to represent me but in fact does not.

Lindsay

[ILoveShrub]

I live an hour west of Philly. And my guess is that currently we are united with Israel because we are fighting terrorists and most people see an arabian or indian person and just hate them because they are a so called "terrorists" so as long as we are at war with the middle east people will support Israel. Because Israel does what American right wingers want to do, so this leaves our hands clean. We have a common enemy.

[Iran5]

america is united with isreal becuase 1 the jewish lobby in america 2 america since the iranian revolution has lost all most all of its strong hold in the middle east and needs one hence isreal 3 america and isreal "common enemy" is not "middle east people" ., "middle east people" are not arabian and indian people but persians turks and arabs , indians are from india and india is not apart of the middle east, i also have not read any indians in any terroist attacks targeting america. why americans i think are so pro - isreali is because the mentality and the bull shit democracy isreal has they share in common with the isrealis. Americans still dont understand why anyone would blow themselves up and kill people at the same time, this act being used through out differnt groups and races of asia ( the shia , the tigers of tamil , the palestinians, the japanese) by not understanding and many of them being ignorant and not wanting to find out themselves they gain a fear of it and call it terroism. but terroism is not ones struggle for a country but how america drinks the blood and sweat of the third world.

[Anonymous]

One of the main reasons why Europe is becoming nore facist is the number of immigrants seeking refuge.
People resent competition of jobs and the immigrants provide scapegoats for any other problems around the area such as crime.
People support right wing parties because they say they will stop all illegal immigration. No-one seems to notice that despite currrent governments spending a lot on coast patrols illegal immigrants still get smuggled across. Facist parties are appealing to what people want and the public are too dumb to realise that even in power the party couldnt deliver.

[pseudo christ]

just look at the detention centres in australia to see racism :/

[ID2002]

"52% of Americans are anti-semetic"....I'd believe it!

...hey any idea on what sort of % of Americans understand world affairs and international histories? How about 32.5%...OUCH

[HeinrichHimmler]

You are wrong only Austria has a very right wing leader. When France had one up for election as president they all voted for Chirac, a criminal. Hell here in England labour are running the show a left wing party. Also America is racist but since they are all immegrants any way it is hugly hypocritical. Also Australians are not racist. Hundreds of illegal immegrants are entering the country. Mainly taken by the Triads. Since they have let in asain immegrants crime went from nerly nonexistant to quite high rates. So next time get your facts right!

[apollyon1515]

hmm, it's unfortunate that we have to ban members who have views contrary to our own. Our sheer intellect and moral integrity in knowingly fighting the good fight for humanity should be enough to send any Neo-Nazi running for the hills. This is a sign of true weakness my comrades.....

[Xvall]

No Polly.. It's a sign that he was banned because he didn't read the Fourm rules. Rules are Rules. And Racists aren't allowed.. Obviously, Heinreich Himmler here is a Nazi, as his profile says his hobbies are 'persecuting slavik people'..

[apollyon1515]

I say give them a chance to explain their beliefs. It is useful to have an opponent so you can practice your *verbal assault* for the ones who seek to discredit you. I say bring the Neo-Nazi's on, the iron fist of reason and love, not ostrasizing and elitism, could come to change them- not shun them.
(most neo-nazi's are just confused kids who want to fight something-they just don't know what yet-let us show them a positive thing to fight for "the liberation of the people")

[thebigcom]

listen racism is as old as time, and will never be eliminated, however, you cant belive that this will lead to rampant facism, if we were headed in that direction by racism, we would have already gotten there

[apollyon1515]

True Communists should not even believe in "race". It is an illusionary term created by rulers and the upper classes over the years to create a false sense of brotherhood with others who are under them. How could "race" be defined: language, skin tone, geographic location of birth, geographic location of current residence, geographic location of ancestory, citizenship of a certain country? All of these things are very abstract because: language is for the most part broken up only by slight changes but originating from the same basic structures, skin tone is also a gradual change as it becomes brighter and darker with gradual changes according to the geographic location of the people (look over a global map and see how there is no break, skin color gets lighter the further from the equator you get, and gets darker the closer to it, and going east and west causes slight variations in bodily forms because of the gradual changes of environments), and these days being born somewhere gives no indication as to the rest of the factors since people are spread out all over the world in non-"native" environments, the same with somewhere somebody lives, and ALL of our ancestry dates back to the original human evolution from a mutation of the chimpanzee in the grasslands of Ethiopia which gradually changed into the lifeform that we have become as it spread out in droves of hunters and gatherers looking for new places to live and therefore subjected themselves to changing environments which had a direct effect on that tribe of people's appearance, and citizenship just means that you pay taxes in return for a lull of security and illusionary confidence in your pathetic existence. But, then again, wouldn't it just be more fun to have it be an "Us and Them" thing where we can create a feeling of hope and comradory to those of us who can share and bathe in our irrational hatred of somebody else's individual characteristics? It truly does make things so much easier, a simple cause for the simple intellects, let's be proud of ourselves for being able to take the easy path to self-fulfillment by creating an illusion instead of solving the Universe's issues. Yay!!!!! j/k :-)

[stick person]

Lets get some terms identified correctly here.

Fascism is the corporate organization of the economy and government.
Racism is the belief that behavioral traits run true according to some heritable characteristic within large groups.
Racial Supremacism is the compound notion that one's own "race" is better than other races, and should therefore rule over others.
Nazism is the combination of fascism, racial supremacism, and eugenics (the pseudo-science of creating a better race).

Come now, we don't like it when right-wingers lump all of us into the same category, especially since that category tends to be labelled "Stalinist." We should set an example and show that we know the differences among them.

As for the US being 52% anti-semitic, I agree with whoever it was that suggested it was probably an ADL poll. Unless you think that Ariel Sharon isn't tough enough, the ADL is likely to consider you anti-semitic.

[sypher]

Quote: from apollyon1515 on 9:12 pm on July 9, 2002
hmm, it's unfortunate that we have to ban members who have views contrary to our own. Our sheer intellect and moral integrity in knowingly fighting the good fight for humanity should be enough to send any Neo-Nazi running for the hills. This is a sign of true weakness my comrades.....


yes, Instead we should have a Soc vs Nazi forum so we can debate and try to change the way they look at the world. it would do much more good than just baning the people.

[Mazdak]

I second that idea. but i know no one else seemed to care.

Hey, the HeinrichHimmler guy didnt say any stupid racist things in that last post. I am shocked and impressed.

[Illiterate Artist]

Quote: from thebigcom on 4:04 am on July 28, 2002
listen racism is as old as time, and will never be eliminated, however, you cant belive that this will lead to rampant facism, if we were headed in that direction by racism, we would have already gotten there


Actually I believed the same thing too but I recently read that human lived with out racism for a long time and racism didn't exsist until capitalist greed came into the picture. Check it out man! http://www.plp.org/pamphlets/smash_racism.html

[LeninCCCP]

I hate israel but not the jews i hope that doesnt make me anti semetic

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Racism is something for ppl in trouble and/or in fear. The easiest way to explain your trouble and to punish your trouble is by picking a minority group. So racism is something for ppl who cant think further than killing to solving.