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Rawthentic
6th March 2007, 04:09
After reading extensively on the American Revolution I have found out how much students are constantly lied to on it, especially in high school classrooms. We were taught that the American Revolution was an event that united the entire colonies in an effort to throw off the British imperial yoke. The reality is, that after the Revolution, the condition of slaves, Indians, women, poor whites and indentured servants had not changed at all. The ruling colonial elites, such as the George Washingtons, the Alexander Hamiltons, and the Thomas Jeffersons were all wealthy slave owners who managed to bring over a section of the poor whites, who since the landing of the Mayflower in 1621 had engaged in intense class struggle along with Indians and slaves, to their side with the rhetoric of liberty and equality. The reality is, as all American wars have shown, that there the few elites that declare wars, and the majority workers who fight it. Even during the Revolution, there were several poor white revolts against the massive wealth that merchants were making off of their labor. This is the side of history that we never hear.

Shay's rebellion, named after a former Revolutionary War soldier who got payed very poorly and was left to rot after the War, gave the signal to the ruling class (ie: the Founding Fathers) of the need to destroy the Articles of Confederation for a more centralized government. The Founding Fathers were brilliant in that they managed to create a liberal enough government to mask itself under the ideals of John Locke, who was an advocate of private property and mercantile capitalism, yet centralized enough to protect the interests of the ruling class from the aforementioned class struggle. They also created a sort of middle class of better off whites who acted as a buffer to the class hatred the poor whites and slaves had to the wealthy. In essence, the slaves, women, Indians, and indentured servants did not change in their condition, their direct rulers were only replaced by the Founding Fathers.

This has a historical connection. Every American war has had the need to recruit soldiers under the idea that they can higher themselves in the social ranks. In other words, they join out economic necessity, not for "God and Country". The majority of soldiers joined and still join out of a need and for a cause they usually don't understand or identify with. Ever since the Revolutionary War, the ruling classes have made it seem as if we as a nation have a common interest to fight such war, when we die in it and they profit off of it. The history of the US is one of intense class struggle, ever since the first settlers got here.

Thoughts on this?

Chicano Shamrock
6th March 2007, 08:13
One of my History teachers in college used the term "Dis-united States of America" when talking about those kind of things. She didn't talk much about class suppression but in regards to people not agreeing over the revolution.

Guerrilla22
6th March 2007, 08:22
The articles of confederation were replaced with the constitution after Shay's rebellion (which often gets portrayed in a negative light in high school history books) this was largely due to the ruling elites fear of losing their wealth, but other problems existed as well. The colonies each printed their own currency, made their own trade agreements and laws. The federalist believed that these problems would leave the US weak and sp the federal system was adopted.

Rawthentic
6th March 2007, 23:15
Thanks for restating my thread.

Ander
6th March 2007, 23:32
Propaganda and lies in high school doesn't come as a surprise to me at all. This is why you have to contest this in class and challenge what is being taught.

I'm guessing you have read A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn. And if you haven't, you should. It touches on this quite heavily and more.

Rawthentic
7th March 2007, 02:58
I am currently reading it, and I'm just astonished on the light it sheds on the lies being perpetuated in high school classrooms.

Genosse Kotze
7th March 2007, 04:44
I always love it when people are repulsed when they hear the DPRK's story of Kim Jong Il's birth. That whole George Washington and the cherry tree is the same shit in a diffrent toilet! The motives behind the war were entirely bourgeois. British taxation was preventing the rich hear from becoming repugnantly rich, so they started a war over it...how nice. I hate it when people say that Bush has hijacked the country and 'we need to take our government back'--the US has been fucked since the beginning, and never was 'ours'... unless you're of the commissar class. Fuck Amerika!

DISTURBEDrbl911
16th April 2007, 08:08
Although it sounds like a dumb source for my general thought on the matter, I believe the supposed history teacher in the movie Dazed and Confused said it quite well, "that a bunch of slave owning aristocratic white males didn't want to pay their taxes."

Raúl Duke
16th April 2007, 10:22
Interestingly, my american history teacher concentrated on the disunited between the cultures of the US (devided between North, Middle, & South) just so to show a correlation between this disunity and the "explosion" between these disunited cultures that is the Civil War.

Today you could still say that the US is culturaly disunited, I mean you go North, South, Midwest, etc and their is much differences. Also the immigrant and black cultures were seperated-disunited from the rest of the white culture.

However, we didn't go deep into the idea of the constituion (i.e. revealing that it was drafted for the interests of the bourgeoisie) except that the constitutional meetings were "closed to the public"