USians prefer Russian, Saudi, and Chinese

[Cheung Mo]

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/14909 (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14909)

I think we've reached the point at which the collective stupidity of the U.S. people can be called irredeemable. (And no, Russia is not a democracy: I do not consider elections of questionable reliability, a political establishment that almost unanimously favours authoritarian social policies, and a lack of a robust free press to be democratic.)

[Enragé]

well
are you surprised?

Thats what you get when you collectively brainwash an entire people from the moment they were born.

[RedStarOverChina]

Man, if I hear this dictatorship vs. "democracy" thing one more time I'm going to lose it.


The phrase Bourgeoisie democracy is an oxy-moron!

[SmashCapitalism]

Well, I guess it does make sense, I mean it's talking about which countries Americans think are better allies, not which they think are downright better. Of ourse Israel, Saudi Arabia and England are closer allies to the U.S. than Venezuela or Cuba! And thank goodness Venezuela and Cuba aren't U.S. "allies", a.k.a. subservient nations to the imperialist power.

[Cheung Mo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 12:07 am
Man, if I hear this dictatorship vs. "democracy" thing one more time I'm going to lose it.


The phrase Bourgeoisie democracy is an oxy-moron!
Will you not admit that the working and underclasses in Venezuela have more freedom and avenues of both individual and collective political expression than they do virtually anywhere else in the world, including Russia, China, and (especially) Saudi Arabia?

As for the Venezuelan electoral process, the reactionaries and their allies in the bourgeoisie have been so politically crippled that it is a legitimate means of expressing support for the Bolivarian Revolution rather than just a shellgame between conservative and liberal factions of the bourgeoisie, who in most of the world are routinely able violate their own rules when mere control of propaganda machines and other avenues of political expression are insufficient to keep them in power.

[Phalanx]

I think he was referring to the US media's portrayal of dictatorships vs. democracies.

[Kropotkin Has a Posse]

They're tools, one and all. Israel they are told to love despite the butchery it has more or less orchestrated for six decades, and they turn a blind eye to the demagoguery of China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. Canada they like because they've never seen what it's really like here and because that man who claims to be the Prime Minister has comitted such energy to Afghanistan, that neocolonial expedition. Britian they like for similar reasons.

I am not a fan of reform but Venezuela's working people could use the climate Chavez has made to their advantage.

[Guerrilla22]

The US prefers countries that are loyal to them as opposed to countries that challenge them. Nothing new here.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 05, 2007 12:20 am
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/14909 (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14909)

I think we've reached the point at which the collective stupidity of the U.S. people can be called irredeemable. (And no, Russia is not a democracy: I do not consider elections of questionable reliability, a political establishment that almost unanimously favours authoritarian social policies, and a lack of a robust free press to be democratic.)
Oh look, another one jumps the "all Americans are stupid lol!" bandwagon. Canada just elected a conservative government, stop pretending that your shit doesn't stink. Anti-American chauvinism from nations with governments that are just as bad: a disease among the left.

[Cheung Mo]

Originally posted by Ronnie James Dio+March 05, 2007 10:29 am--> (Ronnie James Dio @ March 05, 2007 10:29 am)
Cheung [email protected] 05, 2007 12:20 am
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/14909 (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14909)

I think we've reached the point at which the collective stupidity of the U.S. people can be called irredeemable. (And no, Russia is not a democracy: I do not consider elections of questionable reliability, a political establishment that almost unanimously favours authoritarian social policies, and a lack of a robust free press to be democratic.)
Oh look, another one jumps the "all Americans are stupid lol!" bandwagon. Canada just elected a conservative government, stop pretending that your shit doesn't stink. Anti-American chauvinism from nations with governments that are just as bad: a disease among the left. [/b]
A majority of Canadians do not support the Conservatives and a plurality of Canadans are supporting parties other than the Conservatives or the Liberals: Their strength is simply distorted by a broken electoral system.

[Guerrilla22]

Canada also is a member of NATO and has troops occupying Afghanistan and the Canadian government has sold weapons to the Iraqi government. Canada is also a capitalist nation that advocates free trade and is a member of the G8 and WTO.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Look at what the poll is asking:


I’d like to get your feelings about some countries and governing organizations who have been in the news and what sort of a relationship you feel they have with the United States. I’ll read the name of a country or governing organizations and I’d like you to rate how much of a friend or foe they are to the U.S. using the feeling thermometer.

It's not asking how you personally feel about the countries or their government. It's asking how 'warm' you feel their (government's) relationship is with the U.S. (government). I would respond with similar numbers if I was responding to this poll.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 05, 2007 03:15 pm
A majority of Canadians do not support the Conservatives and a plurality of Canadans are supporting parties other than the Conservatives or the Liberals: Their strength is simply distorted by a broken electoral system.
Oh, and the American electoral system is not "broken" in the same way? This one place in America voted in a "socialist"(whether he really is, is another question) politician, but you would still paint that place with the same "AmeriKKKans stupid, lol" brush. Why? Because of the millions of rural conservatives who voted for Bush because he best represented their class interests? Just retract the chauvinist bullshit, it serves nothing but the most nationalist class enemies.

[SmashCapitalism]

Originally posted by Fly Pan [email protected] 05, 2007 11:41 pm
Look at what the poll is asking:


I’d like to get your feelings about some countries and governing organizations who have been in the news and what sort of a relationship you feel they have with the United States. I’ll read the name of a country or governing organizations and I’d like you to rate how much of a friend or foe they are to the U.S. using the feeling thermometer.

It's not asking how you personally feel about the countries or their government. It's asking how 'warm' you feel their (government's) relationship is with the U.S. (government). I would respond with similar numbers if I was responding to this poll.
Definitely, I would make that list pretty much the same as well

[Janus]

I’d like to get your feelings about some countries and governing organizations who have been in the news and what sort of a relationship you feel they have with the United States. I’ll read the name of a country or governing organizations and I’d like you to rate how much of a friend or foe they are to the U.S. using the feeling thermometer.
It says nothing about preference for one style of government over another but asks the voters' opinion on the countries' relations with each country. And currently, the US has better relations with Saudi Arabia, China, and Russia(though that's on the downslide) than Venezuela and Iran.