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PRC-UTE
4th March 2007, 04:23
Never heard of this before. Incredible.


Relatives demand justice as police go on trial over Katrina killings


Paul Harris in New Orleans
Sunday March 4, 2007
The Observer


Ronald Madison stayed on in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina - he could not bear to leave behind the family dogs, a beloved pair of dachshunds called Bobbi and Sushi. It cost him his life.
Madison, 40, who had the mental age of a child, was shot by police one morrning on Danziger Bridge. James Brisette, 19, was also killed, and four others, including two women, seriously injured. All were black. None had committed a crime.

Now seven police officers are set to stand trial for the murders in a grim tale of race, trigger-happy police and an apparent cover-up. 'This is a racial tragedy,' said the Rev Raymond Brown, a black community leader and local head of a civil rights group, the National Action Network. The city is split over the trial. When the policemen were charged at New Orleans's jail, a crowd of 200 gathered to cheer: 'Heroes! Heroes!' One placard declared: 'Thanks for protecting our city.' Now, they said, is no time to be prosecuting the police.
But Romell Madison wants to see his brother's killers treated like any other accused citizens. 'I want justice to prevail. True justice for what happened to my brother,' he said.

The events of 4 September, 2005, on Danziger Bridge are clear enough. It was five days after the storm and the city was in chaos. Just after 9am, a group of refugees was seeking to cross the bridge, including Ronald Madison, who wanted to get to his brother's dental office. Another family was near by, headed for an abandoned supermarket to pick up food and water. Suddenly an unmarked van pulled up. Seven gunmen - not in uniform - jumped out and opened fire. One witness, Kasimir Gaston, has described the men as lining up 'like at a firing range'. When the gunfire stopped, Madison and Brisette were dead. Susan Bartholemew had her arm shot off. Her teenage daughter Lesha was shot four times. Her husband, Leonard, was shot in the back, head and foot.

Yet the shooting was initially reported as the heroic efforts of policemen defending themselves. The men said they were responding to a distress call of 'officer down' from the bridge. When they arrived they said they came under fire and shot back. They claimed Madison had a gun tucked into his belt and moved as if he was about to draw it. An initial police investigation cleared the 'Danziger Seven'.

But that version of events has fallen to pieces and civil rights groups want the police department to be investigated for a possible cover-up. Madison was shot five times in the back as he ran away - no casings linked to any guns but the officers' were found. There were no injured officers. Many of the witnesses cited in the initial police report cannot be traced. No survivors heard the police shout a warning; they assumed they were being attacked by looters. If police claims of coming under fire were true, their truck would have had bullet holes in it. The police say the vehicle is missing.

Many people believe the Danziger Bridge shootings were typical of a police force with a long reputation for brutality, especially against blacks. It has raised suspicions about a police shoot-to-kill policy after the storm. Even the District Attorney, Eddie Jordan, did not mince his words: 'We cannot allow our police officers to shoot and kill our citizens without justification, like rabid dogs.'

There have also been doubts expressed about the judge assigned to the trial, Raymond Bigelow. Several of Bigelow's legal clerks have family links to the Seven's legal team and he is under investigation for remarks he allegedly made about 'crazy black judges'.

There is anger, too, that some of the accused are back at work. 'It is unprecedented to be charged with first-degree murder and allowed out on bail and to be able to go back to work at the police department,' said Mary Howell, a civil rights lawyer working with the victims.

Yet the situation is far from clear-cut. In 2006 New Orleans had America's highest murder rate. There were 162 killings and one conviction. At times it feels like a city under siege. And not all the Danziger Seven are white; four are black or Hispanic. That has raised suspicions that politicians are inflaming the race issue; a high-profile case like this gives career-boosting opportunities. 'It has all become political,' said Sergeant Donovan Livaccori, the police union spokesman. 'The Seven just want to get the process going and get their names cleared.'

Neither does Romell Madison believe the cops were racist. 'There is a small group of rogue cops that exist and they thought they were above the law. They thought they could do whatever they wanted,' he said.

For Howell, race is important. 'If it had been a white, middle-class family walking across that bridge, those officers would not have been so quick to jump out and shoot them,' she said.

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Phalanx
4th March 2007, 05:29
If they walk, there is something seriously fucked up about this already seriously fucked up system.

Nate
5th March 2007, 17:06
Similer things go on all the time. It's wrong and unjust, makes every part of me sick to think of this happening.

Janus
6th March 2007, 00:18
As far as I can tell, the details surrounding the issue are somewhat murky and thus we need more evidence before we can determine if racism was a factor (though at this point it doesn't really seem so since some of the officers were black). However, even in spite of the turmoil that was going on during and after Katrina, this is still yet again another case of police brutality and the use of excessive force/aggression.

OkaCrisis
6th March 2007, 05:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 07:18 pm
As far as I can tell, the details surrounding the issue are somewhat murky and thus we need more evidence before we can determine if racism was a factor (though at this point it doesn't really seem so since some of the officers were black).
Black people can also be racist to other black people.

I don't see, if the facts presented in the article contain a grain of truth, how racism could not have been a factor.


However, even in spite of the turmoil that was going on during and after Katrina, this is still yet again another case of police brutality and the use of excessive force/aggression.
:(

coda
6th March 2007, 06:01
Gee, it doesn't even matter if race is involved, that's a secondary factor. Main issue is the cops killing people again. black, white, armed, unarmed --doesn''t matter -- the pigs shouldn't be fucking doing it.

OkaCrisis
7th March 2007, 02:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 01:01 am
Gee, it doesn't even matter if race is involved, that's a secondary factor. Main issue is the cops killing people again. black, white, armed, unarmed --doesn''t matter -- the pigs shouldn't be fucking doing it.
QFT.

( R )evolution
7th March 2007, 03:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 12:18 am
As far as I can tell, the details surrounding the issue are somewhat murky and thus we need more evidence before we can determine if racism was a factor (though at this point it doesn't really seem so since some of the officers were black). However, even in spite of the turmoil that was going on during and after Katrina, this is still yet again another case of police brutality and the use of excessive force/aggression.
Those cops should be hanged no matter what. Blacks cops are still the same as white cops, they are fucking cops! As you know Janus, cops are just agents of the ruling class. Hopefully everyone of these fuckers will be hanged.

welshred
7th March 2007, 14:19
This is unbelievable, police shooting innocent civilians and back working. Plus the people supporting the police. that is fucked up, the pigs should have a taste of their own medicine and should be shot themselves.

Janus
8th March 2007, 01:40
Black people can also be racist to other black people.
:blink: In that case, it has more to do with one's social position than with race.

Comrade_Scott
12th March 2007, 05:03
dude if the cops walk then this just proves how screwd up america is, fuck the states and fuck the cops!!!

manic expression
12th March 2007, 06:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 01:40 am

Black people can also be racist to other black people.
:blink: In that case, it has more to do with one's social position than with race.
It also has to do with the exact color of one's skin. A "black" person who is pretty dark will get crap from other "blacks" who are lighter and visa versa.

In the US, mulattos were and are treated as "blacks", and so there isn't a division between mixed "blacks" and non-mixed "blacks". However, there is a VERY strong division in the Carribean and other places (Liberia comes to mind as well), and that could VERY EASILY carry over to the US (especially New Orleans, since there is a big Haitian influence there IIRC).

Watch the Chappelle's Show episode of Rick James, and you'll see jokes about the skin tint of different "blacks" (Dave isn't racist if you ask me, he just has racially charged material because we live in a racially charged society).

If you've ever watched the NBA, a player named Kenyon Martin has a tattoo on his chest that says: "Bad Ass Yellow Boy", which probably means people made fun of his skin color when he was growing up (he's got lighter skin).

Janus
14th March 2007, 04:15
It also has to do with the exact color of one's skin. A "black" person who is pretty dark will get crap from other "blacks" who are lighter and visa versa.
I see what you're saying but there are also economic reasons behind that as well. Lighter African Americans who have intermarried are also more likely to be in a higher social class than those who have not which is one reason for some of the friction.