The role of alcohol in society

[Supermodel]

1. Is the production of alcohol a necessity or a luxury?
2. Is the production of alcohol a capitalist or socialist undertaking?
3. In a utopia, would alcohol be banned or freely handed out?
4. Did the CCCP have rehab for alcoholics?
5. Wine or Rum? (Che -v- Fidel)

[Xvall]

1) Necessity! But the least important necessity!
2) Socialist.. Alcohol was invented by the Prole!
3) Niether.. It can be distributed, but not a lot..
4) Didn't they?
5) Niether, Vodka is the drink of the Revolutionary!

[Lardlad95]

vodka? Can't I just use the vodka to make a black russian?

Or how about tequila? A mudslide? Or just plain rum? Table wine

one second I'm only 14 I shouldn't be disscussing this....(takes a long drink from a flask of whiskey)

[Supermodel]

Uhhhhhh....vodka I can no longer drink.....and what idiot passed the rumor that you can't smell vodka on someone's breath? I can smell vodka at 50 paces.

My drink of choice for now is red wine. I've actually found some Argentinian wine at the store and it's pretty good but I think the Aussie wines are the best so far.

[vox]

The answer to the first three questions is "neither." I don't know the answer to the fourth question, and I don't care.

But the fifth question is obvious. Wine, of course.

Ever hear McKenna's take on alcohol? As usual, he's out there, but just within the bounds of possibilty (he said that alcohol was the drug of dominator culture and recommended hallucinogens instead).

vox

[Blasphemy]

i can't stand vodka...

[evil chris]

placation.

it's a crap drug with very few redeeiming factors.

and vodka is the true king.

[RedCeltic]

Daniel De Leon said to a group of Union Laborists in Boston Mass. One night in the 1890's, that Prohibition of alcohol was an injust attempt for labor bosses to obtain more control over their workers.

What does that mean exactly? It means that because someone drinks heavy on Sunday night, they may come in on Monday morning being a bit too slow.. and therefore holding up progress.

I think that it is fair to say that American Socialists are not Prohibitionists. After all, American President F.D.R. who supported many socialist reforms was the one who repealed the prohibition, and recieved several truck loads of free beer from each surviving brewery.

Gosh, that must have been a grand white house party..

[Menshevik]

Alcohol has always been part of the human experience. Every group/culture of people on earth (well, just about) drinks some form of ethyl alcohol (and some others drink poison like isopropl and listerine). Is it necessary, no, but it can't hurt too much can it? It isn't nearly as addicitive as tobacco or cocaine, or heroine, and it can give a similar, comparatively harmless effect.

[Valkyrie]

Yeah RC, wasn't it Henry Ford who went to his employees houses looking for liquor in their kitchen cabinets... And if he found any, that person was fired.

It's a lot like drug-testing today. a bunch of shit if you ask me.

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from Supermodel on 5:19 pm on June 11, 2002
1. Is the production of alcohol a necessity or a luxury?
2. Is the production of alcohol a capitalist or socialist undertaking?
3. In a utopia, would alcohol be banned or freely handed out?
4. Did the CCCP have rehab for alcoholics?
5. Wine or Rum? (Che -v- Fidel)



1) luxury, nobody NEEDS alcohol regardless of how great it is ")

2) what drake said

3) gotta go with Drake on this one too

4) yes they did, I'm sure of it. I was learning about it a few months ago in a book (not the one I'm reading now)

5) neither, VODKA! u either hate it or love it. I love it. And not just because it is the "Proletariot" drink. If not vodka, then scotch or whiskey. Rum is ok but wine sucks. i can down bottles of wine and I still won't get drunk. Me and Gacky are heavyweights. :)

[peaccenicked]

I am an alcho-stalinist confiscate it all and give me the key to the world's wine cellar. And If I like you, you are invited to the party.
Hhhhhiicc,corrrruptttttttttsshhhhion
falls over on to pile of own vomit.

[RedCeltic]

"Campbell town Loch I wish you where whiskey" eh Peaccenicked?

[peaccenicked]

you mean it is nt. I thought it tasted funny.

[Supermodel]

Speaking of tasting funny, can anyone stand that Greek ouzo stuff?

Hey, Peace, filter out the fish and weeds first and the loch will taste fine.

[RedCeltic]

I can, but I don't drink it very much, hardly ever actually.

[Edit:] BTW, That was a refrence to a
Scottish comical song by Andy Stewart.

He sings of how he wishs that Campbell town Loch was whiskey and how he would drink it dry.

The end has him saying, "And what's this I see, a vision to make your blood freeze, it's the police afloat, on a dirty big boat, and their shouting, TIME GENTALMEN PLEASE! Oh no no!"





(Edited by RedCeltic at 9:39 pm on June 13, 2002)

[thebigcom]

I'm a HUGE fan of alcohol. it is a necessity for relaxation, and you CAN NOT have a utopia without alcohol

[Menshevik]

How is it necessary for relaxation? You may need it now because youre addicted, but if alcohol had never existed, I think you would be doing just fine.

[peaccenicked]

This relaxation thing is overestimated Hic
Hic Hic The real idea is oblivion. And something else I completelly forget. The taste. Sure all the water in Scotland tastes of whisky. Or is that lemonade?. It so hard to remember.

[Valkyrie]

It all tastes like piss to me. Haven't touched the stuff since I was 21, after spending a decade in a drunken teenaged alcholic stupor, most of which I don't remember. Strange about those blackouts....

[Kez]

in USSR if u were drunk, and pissing ppl off, ud be chucked in a cell until u sobered up and then released, which i reckon is what they should do in the UK

[Son of Scargill]

They generally do throw you in the cells to sober up in the UK kamo,unless you've REALLY pissed people off.But if you make a habit of it,they prosecute.I didn't like the wooden benches you get to sleep on in the cells,and,like paris,hated the blackouts so I drink with caution these days.

[hobo]

Well in the UK you can be held in a cell for just about anything, i think its called section 5, but anyway if you swear or are just on a demo you can be arrested and charged with it. Yesterday a guy just behind me was crossing a road to avoid the small barricade of the police, he was blowing a whistle and was jumped by 3 policemen and charged with it. After a lawer was called they bumped the charge up to assulting an officer, he was just behind me and all witnesses saw no such assult.

[Menshevik]

public intoxication is against the law in most countries.

[guerrillaradio]

Blackouts, hangovers, vomiting, things said that are best left unsaid, why do people do it?? Speaking personally, it's a diversion from how much life sucks, much like sport. It shouldn't be disallowed though, as we, as human beings, should be allowed to be in control of our own destinies and what we poison our bodies with, which is what I do at every available opportunity (mmMMmmMmmmMm...where's that bong??).

1. Luxury
2. Neither - to attribute an entirely apolitical object and activity to a political system of thought is both moronic and naive
3. Freely handed out obviously
4. Nah, they threw in the gulags (eh Kamo ;)?)
5. Both....haha, maybe a bit of Coke too to mix it down.

[I Will Deny You]

1. Luxury . . . there are plenty of other ways to gain weight, puke, black out, or have a good time. Of course, the alcohol doesn't hurt.
2. It should be done in a socialist country when the populace's needs are met.
3. Freely handed out, especially for me.
4. Are you kidding me? I thought they didn't even have toilet paper ;)
5. Wine

Lindsay

[peaccenicked]

Like all things know thyself know thy limits. Stay peaceful and merry.