Anti-fascist raped and murdered in NJ?

[FinnMacCool]

I got a message from someone on Youtube that apparently a young anti-fascist woman was raped and killed in Montclaire, NJ by a group called the Bergen County werewolves. Can anyone verify this? I have not found anything elsewhere.

[ahab]

goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...

[Phalanx]

This is why antifas should be applying for concealed carry.

[Fawkes]

I don't know anything about this but I think you should ask the person who told you this if they have a source to verify that this happened.

By the way, you have one of the best user names on here. Fionn, albeit a fictitious person, was awesome.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Tatanka [email protected] 01, 2007 04:32 pm
This is why antifas should be applying for concealed carry.
Unless they live in one of the few states that doesn't have it. :angry:

Still, best to carry some form of protection... I've got a few.

[manic expression]

If anyone can verify this or if anyone hears anything please post it, thanks.

[Ihavenoidea]

Thank God nothing that serious has happened here... Here it is mostly Older concervatives anyhooo.


So I am safe.


But I am going to Washington state this year and I dunno how thats gonna go -_-

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area).

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by sultan+March 02, 2007 02:28 am--> (sultan @ March 02, 2007 02:28 am)
[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area). [/b]
Most likely they were male fascists.

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by TAKN+March 02, 2007 02:35 am--> (TAKN @ March 02, 2007 02:35 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:28 am

[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area).
Most likely they were male fascists. [/b]
I didn't know they had homosexual fascists. If they were female, then that guy's brother was probably pretty happy ;) . I hate Nazis, but you should get "it" from where you can.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by sultan+March 02, 2007 02:44 am--> (sultan @ March 02, 2007 02:44 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:35 am

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:28 am

[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area).
Most likely they were male fascists.
I didn't know they had homosexual fascists. If they were female, then that guy's brother was probably pretty happy ;) . I hate Nazis, but you should get "it" from where you can. [/b]
Actually, most men who rape other men are heterosexual - Rape is a act of violence, degradation and humiliation, not an act of sexuality.

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:47 am
Actually, most men who rape other men are heterosexual - Rape is a act of violence, degradation and humiliation, not an act of sexuality.
I know that, but I have never heard of heterosexual men comiting rape on another man.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by sultan+March 01, 2007 09:52 pm--> (sultan @ March 01, 2007 09:52 pm)
[email protected] 02, 2007 02:47 am
Actually, most men who rape other men are heterosexual - Rape is a act of violence, degradation and humiliation, not an act of sexuality.
I know that, but I have never heard of heterosexual men comiting rape on another man. [/b]
It happens in prisons. a lot.

[KappaDelta]

Ever seen Pulp Fiction?

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by sultan+March 02, 2007 12:44 pm--> (sultan @ March 02, 2007 12:44 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:35 am

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:28 am

[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area).
Most likely they were male fascists.
I didn't know they had homosexual fascists. If they were female, then that guy's brother was probably pretty happy ;) . I hate Nazis, but you should get "it" from where you can. [/b]
I really dont think anyone is 'happy' to be raped :wacko:

[Rollo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:03 pm
Ever seen Pulp Fiction?
The rape scene is american history X is better.

[Ihavenoidea]

Well, sultan that was a very interesting comment.


*absoutly baffled* :huh:

[ahab]

Originally posted by sultan+March 02, 2007 02:28 am--> (sultan @ March 02, 2007 02:28 am)
[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area). [/b]
nope, they were males, from what I hear they got them back, or at least the group they were apart of.


the pulp fiction scene is better, especially cuz the dude gets revenge by shooting the rapist in the dick with a shotgun or whatever lol

[Honggweilo]

Originally posted by TAKN+March 02, 2007 02:35 am--> (TAKN @ March 02, 2007 02:35 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 02:28 am

[email protected] 01, 2007 10:26 pm
goddamn those motherfuckers, it wouldnt surprise me, one of my ARA friends brothers got jumped and raped by a group of nazi's in portland. This shit has got to end...
Were they female fascists? It isn't that often that males get raped (at least not in my area).
Most likely they were male fascists.[/b]
Why do fascists see rape as the only justifiable form of homosexuality?? One of the most sexual perveted things is rape, and if they combine that with something they find an utterly repulsive sexual preference, why the hell do they rape a, most likely a non-homophobic, anti-fascist?? Rape is worse enough, being raped by a guy most likely wouldnt hurt his "honour" more, it would only discrace nazi honour in their ethics. Nazi rapists are bunch of fucking hypocrit emo closet queers who hate themselfes to much but are to wuss to commit suicide. Then they just go out raping anti-fascists to cover up their sexual desire <_<

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by ddxt
Nazi rapists are bunch of fucking hypocrit emo closet queers who hate themselfes to much but are to wuss to commit suicide.

You might want to re-phrase this sentence...

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by black rose+March 02, 2007 10:47 am--> (black rose @ March 02, 2007 10:47 am)
ddxt
Nazi rapists are bunch of fucking hypocrit emo closet queers who hate themselfes to much but are to wuss to commit suicide.

You might want to re-phrase this sentence... [/b]
Yeah, you spelled themselves wrong.

:D

[Aurora]

Why do fascists see rape as the only justifiable form of homosexuality??
WTF?&#33; yes cause homosexuals are rapists right?

[Everyday Anarchy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 10:17 am

Why do fascists see rape as the only justifiable form of homosexuality??
WTF?&#33; yes cause homosexuals are rapists right?
Oh shut the hell up.
A man raping a man is homosexual. A man raping a woman is not homosexual. He was just saying that fascists are homophobic, though they&#39;re comfortable with raping someone in a homosexual manner.

[ahab]

Originally posted by Everyday Anarchy+March 02, 2007 08:15 pm--> (Everyday Anarchy @ March 02, 2007 08:15 pm)
[email protected] 02, 2007 10:17 am

Why do fascists see rape as the only justifiable form of homosexuality??
WTF?&#33; yes cause homosexuals are rapists right?
Oh shut the hell up.
A man raping a man is homosexual. A man raping a woman is not homosexual. He was just saying that fascists are homophobic, though they&#39;re comfortable with raping someone in a homosexual manner. [/b]
its because theyre all mindless fucking animals

[RASHskins]

The act itself is homosexual yes. But it is meant to show dominance or superiority to another lifeform. hmmm where have i seen this before. Oh yea in animals. And i figure how nazi&#39;s and fascism in gerneral always allude to the inequalities in nature to justify there fucked up beliefs. So here the the anwser why nazi&#39;s can do the hypocritical homosexualy act and not realise they are contradicting their beliefs. Nazi&#39;s are not humans, they are in fact animals. Actually lower than animals because they have a brain but do not use it. Anyone who can support nazism these days of their own choice is an animal who is not capable of actual thought. This is why i have no problem killing a nazi as it is the death of the lowest lifeform on this planet.

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by black [email protected] 02, 2007 04:21 am
I really dont think anyone is &#39;happy&#39; to be raped :wacko:
As a heterosexual male I would not have a problem with being raped by females. I&#39;m the type of guy who would take it as a compliment and then find out where those ladies live and leave flowers and candy on their doorstep. :P I&#39;m such a gentleman. I would take it as a compliment if males raped me, but I wouldn&#39;t be too happy about it since I&#39;m heterosexual. But yeah, I agree that it&#39;s hypocritical for male Nazis to rape a man and still be Nazis. Hitler probably rolled over in his grave when that happened. But Hitler&#39;s unrest and misery after death is a good thing. Btw, I&#39;ve only seen Pulp Fiction on Spike TV (so it was cleaned up).

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by sultan+March 02, 2007 10:14 pm--> (sultan &#064; March 02, 2007 10:14 pm)
black [email protected] 02, 2007 04:21 am
I really dont think anyone is &#39;happy&#39; to be raped :wacko:
As a heterosexual male I would not have a problem with being raped by females. I&#39;m the type of guy who would take it as a compliment and then find out where those ladies live and leave flowers and candy on their doorstep. :P I&#39;m such a gentleman. I would take it as a compliment if males raped me, but I wouldn&#39;t be too happy about it since I&#39;m heterosexual. But yeah, I agree that it&#39;s hypocritical for male Nazis to rape a man and still be Nazis. Hitler probably rolled over in his grave when that happened. But Hitler&#39;s unrest and misery after death is a good thing. Btw, I&#39;ve only seen Pulp Fiction on Spike TV (so it was cleaned up). [/b]
Rape is more than just having sex with someone, you know. Rape entails violence and to say that you&#39;d take it as a compliment is a huge insult to those who have had the misfortune of being raped.

[FinnMacCool]

Well since I&#39;ve seen no mention of the incident on the news and the person I&#39;ve contacted hasn&#39;t given me a source, I think we can assume that this is a false alarm.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 06:00 pm
Well since I&#39;ve seen no mention of the incident on the news and the person I&#39;ve contacted hasn&#39;t given me a source, I think we can assume that this is a false alarm.
OK that&#39;s great to hear, thanks for the update.

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 05:16 pm
Rape is more than just having sex with someone, you know. Rape entails violence and to say that you&#39;d take it as a compliment is a huge insult to those who have had the misfortune of being raped.
I know it&#39;s more than sex. It is violent, forced sex with the intent to do horrible things like deform character. I&#39;d still take it as a compliment. Don&#39;t ask why. Idk why. Maybe I&#39;d think of it differently if I was a woman since it can be worse for them than for men. I&#39;m glad to hear this case was a false alarm.

[Dimentio]

The vikings had another way to looking at homosexuality. According to them, the one who was penetrating was superior in rank and value to the one who was subordinate (for example young vikings, Frankish monks, African slaves, so on). The one who were carrying out the penetration was no the sodomite, the one who was subordinate was morally repulsive though and considered a sodomite because he had put himself in a female and therefore less valuable position.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 09:14 pm
As a heterosexual male I would not have a problem with being raped by females. I&#39;m the type of guy who would take it as a compliment and then find out where those ladies live and leave flowers and candy on their doorstep. :P I&#39;m such a gentleman.
If you want it to happen, then it isn&#39;t rape. The simplest definitions have made that clear. I&#39;ve willingly had sex with people I didn&#39;t really want to and the feeling afterwards wasn&#39;t pleasant; I can&#39;t even imagine how horrible and violating rape must feel, whether for a man or man. Don&#39;t make light of this.


But yeah, I agree that it&#39;s hypocritical for male Nazis to rape a man and still be Nazis.

Not really. Rape is about domination and humiliation, not sexuality. Heterosexuals have always used it as a weapon, especially in war situations, against men and women.

[Sand Castle]

Most rape cases in my area are done by perverts who want to stick their dick in a place it is not wanted. I have never heard of such a case as the one being discussed here (about the brother being raped). It seems unusual due to the fact that most of the time men do the raping to women. Maybe we are thinking of a different type of rape (?). With all the homophobic people and media down here in Richmond heterosexual, man on man rape just doesn&#39;t seem normal to me. I was just saying before that I would like females to rape me. I know it might sound weird to you, but the "brother was raped" thing sounds weird to me. However, I&#39;m not doubting it happened. Most heterosexual men I know would not touch another man in a way that would be considered similar to sexually touching, even if it was to show dominance and superiority. That is why I find it out of character for male Nazis to rape other males. Did this guy&#39;s brother know for sure that it was Nazis who raped him?

[PRC-UTE]

Can anyone answer whether it&#39;s true or not re: the original post?

I googled but didn&#39;t find anything.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by Everyday Anarchy+March 03, 2007 06:15 am--> (Everyday Anarchy &#064; March 03, 2007 06:15 am)
[email protected] 02, 2007 10:17 am

Why do fascists see rape as the only justifiable form of homosexuality??
WTF?&#33; yes cause homosexuals are rapists right?
Oh shut the hell up.
A man raping a man is homosexual. A man raping a woman is not homosexual. He was just saying that fascists are homophobic, though they&#39;re comfortable with raping someone in a homosexual manner. [/b]
Take your own advice.

A man raping another man is RAPE, it&#39;s not &#39;homosexual&#39; - its not representative of any sexuality - least of all &#39;homosexual&#39; given that the vast majority of man-on-man rape is done by self-identifying heterosexual men :rolleyes:

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by PRC&#045;UTE+March 05, 2007 04:57 pm--> (PRC-UTE @ March 05, 2007 04:57 pm) Can anyone answer whether it&#39;s true or not re: the original post?

I googled but didn&#39;t find anything. [/b]

FinnMacCool
Well since I&#39;ve seen no mention of the incident on the news and the person I&#39;ve contacted hasn&#39;t given me a source, I think we can assume that this is a false alarm.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2007 07:57 am
I know it&#39;s more than sex. It is violent, forced sex with the intent to do horrible things like deform character. I&#39;d still take it as a compliment. Don&#39;t ask why. Idk why. Maybe I&#39;d think of it differently if I was a woman since it can be worse for them than for men. I&#39;m glad to hear this case was a false alarm.
Sir, please, you&#39;re making a fool of yourself.

[Sand Castle]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 09:13 am

Sir, please, you&#39;re making a fool of yourself.
I AM a fool. It&#39;s not my fault and I don&#39;t need you to come down on me like it is just because my veiws of the world are "molded" a little different.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I AM a fool. It&#39;s not my fault and I don&#39;t need you to come down on me like it is just because my veiws of the world are "molded" a little different.
Not only are you a fool but you are a naive, hormone-driven child and you need to get your shit together if you are to last on this forum, or indeed in the world of revolutionary politics.

Rape is probably one of the most disgusting, appalling and destructive forms of attack. In the context of fascist attacks, it is not about lust in any way, never has been and never will be. Sex is simply chosen as the method of attack because it is well known that intercourse or penetration against one&#39;s will, no matter the age or gender, is one of the most horrifying and emotionally/psychologically damaging experiences possible. Rape is an act of extreme hatred and inhumanity, intended to cause the victim as much pain as possible. If you really have such low self-respect, then picture someone close to you (girlfriend, sister or mother maybe) screaming and crying while being held down and penetrated by some Nazi brute.

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by black coffee black metal+March 01, 2007 07:56 pm--> (black coffee black metal &#064; March 01, 2007 07:56 pm)
Tatanka [email protected] 01, 2007 04:32 pm
This is why antifas should be applying for concealed carry.
Unless they live in one of the few states that doesn&#39;t have it. :angry:
[/b]
Since when have we been overly concerned with the law?

Just get some nice concealed carry clothing from 5.11 (the concealed carry jeans work great, just wish they came in black).

Anyone have any DIY advice on dyeing jeans?

http://www.511tactical.com/index.asp?dlrID...EW&number=74002 (http://www.511tactical.com/index.asp?dlrID=511&dept=_NEW&number=74002)

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[Political_Chucky]

Originally posted by sultan+March 08, 2007 07:26 am--> (sultan @ March 08, 2007 07:26 am)
[email protected] 08, 2007 09:13 am

Sir, please, you&#39;re making a fool of yourself.
I AM a fool. It&#39;s not my fault and I don&#39;t need you to come down on me like it is just because my veiws of the world are "molded" a little different. [/b]
Your "molded" views have been molded through the many misconceptions of what a horny teenager thinks. As many people have pointed out, rape really has nothing to do with making love, lust, or anything what sex should be associated with. Rape is about dominance, about over-powering a victim into a submission of humiliation. I don&#39;t understand why you allow yourself to be a fool and happily admit it. Its not a good thing to be ignorant you know....and I suggest you take this advice: Think before you talk.

[dez]

I&#39;d say it fits properly the character of male nazis to rap* other males.
Having possessive notions over se*uality and thinking hommoss*xuality is unnatural and wrong, to a homoss*xual, would make the person hate itself so much at a level that embracing ideologies such as fascism wouldn&#39;t just seem ok, would reinforce their manhood.
Therefore i&#39;d say that rap* is an act of dominance, that having the p*nis inserted at someone might have that power aura to some people, but i&#39;d also say that not everyone has the power to "get it up" at will, and that it indeed is possible for some man-to-man rap*rs to be homoss*xuals.

firewall over here, *=e

[Comrade Marcel]

Just a few comments before I close this thread.

There is no concensus on what a "homosexual" is. If you had sex with a person of the same sex once in your life, are you a homosexual? I think for a person to be considered a homosexual it would have to be a concious label of their own choice.

Male-on-male rape is rarely driven by homosexual urges, but by dominant, violent and power dynamic motives, as has already been pointed out by other comrades.

There has also been cases of nazis/fascists/homophobes committing male-on-male rape with the above psychology in mind.

Also, there has been similar cases of gay bashing, with the bashers then going home, getting drunk and having a big homosexual orgy with each other.

This is actually an extreme condition of homophobia. The homophobic person(s) has strong homo erotic feelings, and uses anger to suppress them. The anger has to be released as well though. They find someone who is a symbol of homosexuality (the "flaming homosexual" in the gay district) and use violence on them to release the anger. However, a feeling of guilt and/or regret kicks in after. Alcohol is used to suppress this, and as intoxication kicks in they become more relaxed. Since the homosexual feelings can not be cured, urges soon come back and the person lets themselves engage in gay sex. The next day the sex part is not discussed, ever, in their mind it&#39;s like it never happened and the same events happen again next week, or next month, or whenever....

I am going to close this thread now since it was based on a rumor or something, and sultan&#39;s comments have soured the thread. sultan you really need to grow up.