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Goatse
24th February 2007, 22:29
Just a point for discussion... you know when you learn a foreign language? You just start with the basics... and you can write stuff like "Hello, my name is Joe, I am a boy, I am sixteen years old and I live in Armenia" - just general stuff about yourself. Will homosexuality (and other discriminated sexualities) ever be accepted enough to the degree that when you're just talking about yourself, you'll casually mention you're (whatever)sexual? Or will homosexuality and other -sexualities always remain taboo to some degree?
StartToday
24th February 2007, 22:42
I think one's orientation will matter less and less as time goes on. There will always be discrimination though, whether it's about race, sexuality, religion, nationality, etc. All we can try to do is to lessen the occurence of it (discrimination that is).
Fawkes
24th February 2007, 23:12
I think ones sexual orientation will actually become less relevant in the future and as a result people would feel even less of a need to expose it.
Pawn Power
24th February 2007, 23:16
'Hello, my names Lucy and I'm gay and am studing bio-chemistry.'
I think that conversations will become more open as society becomes less homophobic but that does not make it necessary to announce your sexuality. Perhaps announcing ones sexuality will become less important as eqaulity comes.
StartToday
25th February 2007, 05:11
Originally posted by
[email protected] 24, 2007 11:12 pm
I think ones sexual orientation will actually become less relevant in the future and as a result people would feel even less of a need to expose it.
Exactly.
EwokUtopia
25th February 2007, 07:47
It will become more open, but including it in that introductory sentence is just ridiculous, unless its the begining of a flirt.
Wait 2 or 3 sentences, then announce your sexuality. Dont go all gung-ho gay cowboy on the introductions.
RedAnarchist
25th February 2007, 13:04
Remember that up until the 1950's and 1960's (and even now in some places), "other" sexualities (homo-, bi-, trans- etc) that were different to the majority of people were considered either illegal, mental illnesses or perversions.
Society is becoming more accepting, and we should do what we can to help it along.
razboz
25th February 2007, 14:10
I dont see the point. Seriously who gives a crap which sexuality you are? It not like its a disease everyone should know about: "Sorry dont drink from my bottle im gay".
Why bother? Unless your interested in the person you're talking to or its somehow relevant to the discussion there's no need to expose it.
Knight of Cydonia
25th February 2007, 14:30
will homosexuality and other -sexualities always remain taboo to some degree?
Yes, as long as there is a discrimination everywhere, that thing will remain taboo. this why we should threw a way the thing called discrimination.
but i think in some country, this things aren't taboo anymore i.e Brazil, you can find some party or somekind of parade which attended by a lot of same-sex lovers.
Honggweilo
25th February 2007, 15:10
Hello i'm john, i'm a pedophile and i work as a kindergarden teatcher
^ i think some taboos concerning sexuality will remain
manic expression
25th February 2007, 16:22
I wouldn't think so. When I get in conversations, I don't casually mention that I'm straight, it just doesn't work that way. Likewise, I don't tell people what my shoe size is or show people my birthmark when I meet them, that's a part of who I am but it has no place in such a casual conversation.
If homosexuality is to be accepted, it will not be something that defines anyone. Therefore, it will be something that will be recognized when the time is right, not when you just meet someone.
Mujer Libre
25th February 2007, 21:22
Hmm, openness- in the sense of openly stating one's sexuality (for queer people) may increase as society grows more tolerant, but heterosexuality is still considered the norm.
What I mean is, everyone is assumed to be hetero unless stated otherwise, even if there is less outright discrimination.
For sexuality to become 'irrelevant' or rather, less of a label, people need to stop seeing heterosexuality as the default (and start looking at a spectrum of fluid(ish) sexualities), which is much harder.
Fawkes
25th February 2007, 22:21
Hello i'm john, i'm a pedophile and i work as a kindergarden teatcher
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Unless you're talking to someone for the sole reason of getting in their pants, what would even be the purpose in stating one's sexuality?
Boriznov
26th February 2007, 14:05
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25, 2007 10:21 pm
Hello i'm john, i'm a pedophile and i work as a kindergarden teatcher
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Unless you're talking to someone for the sole reason of getting in their pants, what would even be the purpose in stating one's sexuality?
I agree, your sexuality has nothing to do with what you really are, a human being. Would it change anything if you said it ? In my opinion, i don't think so.
TC
26th February 2007, 17:06
Originally posted by
[email protected] 24, 2007 10:29 pm
Just a point for discussion... you know when you learn a foreign language? You just start with the basics... and you can write stuff like "Hello, my name is Joe, I am a boy, I am sixteen years old and I live in Armenia" - just general stuff about yourself. Will homosexuality (and other discriminated sexualities) ever be accepted enough to the degree that when you're just talking about yourself, you'll casually mention you're (whatever)sexual? Or will homosexuality and other -sexualities always remain taboo to some degree?
lol actually i don't think anyone ever says anything like 'hello my name is joe, i am a boy, i am sixteen years old and i live in armenia' people just leave it as "my name is joe" unless otherwise relevant.
Likewise, sexuality is ususally refered to either overtly or implicitly when its relevant but not when its not.
For instance:
::At Work::
"Hello, i'm Matt, i'll be working with you on the new project"
"Nice to meet you Matt, I'm Julie, i'm a lesbian"
Would be *WEIRD* as it would be way too much irrelevant information for the context.
However:
::at a bar after work::
"Hey, let me introduce myself, i'm Matt, you're so pretty you shouldn't look so lonely, why don't you smile? let me buy you a drink?"
"I'm a lesbian."
Would be entirely appropriate...even if you're not :-p.
Adam Rand
10th March 2007, 01:34
Originally posted by
[email protected] 24, 2007 10:29 pm
Just a point for discussion... you know when you learn a foreign language? You just start with the basics... and you can write stuff like "Hello, my name is Joe, I am a boy, I am sixteen years old and I live in Armenia" - just general stuff about yourself. Will homosexuality (and other discriminated sexualities) ever be accepted enough to the degree that when you're just talking about yourself, you'll casually mention you're (whatever)sexual? Or will homosexuality and other -sexualities always remain taboo to some degree?
I suppose for some situtations it would be best if the sexual orientation was obvious (in a single scene, for one obviously), though in the daily life I don't see the need why such a thing should be stated. The ideal would probably be that it can be stated without any weird looks, but that it isn't...because, well, it is pointless information for the most part.
Dominick
14th March 2007, 11:02
I envision the very idea of orientation disappearing, as the conception that a sexual act relegates one to a specific group is relatively new and fundamentally flawed as studies like the Kinsey Report show.
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