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Blasphemy
22nd May 2002, 08:19
can someone please explain to me how ghandi's peaceful resistance works. thanks...
Anonymous
22nd May 2002, 14:12
The peaceful resistance that was going on with ghandi was like thousands of people refusing to move a muscle. It's great becuase if you hae like 10,000 people in on place who refuse to move then the authoritys have a problem.....
Anonymous
22nd May 2002, 14:13
The peaceful resistance that was going on with ghandi was like thousands of people refusing to move a muscle. It's great becuase if you have like 10,000 people in one place who refuse to move then the authoritys have a problem.....
libereco
22nd May 2002, 14:34
I've actually heard ghandis grandson speak on this...very interesting.
however, peaceful resistance is just another part of the non-violence that ghandi preached.
it was also necessary. One example would be protesters not raising their hands to protect themselves when beaten by Police. Not running away. They just let the police beat them to death. (some anyway)
This was necessary, because if they would have for example raised their hands, then the police could have claimed that they were just protecting themselves from the violent protesters that were trying to harm them.
TC of Glockenspiel
22nd May 2002, 14:59
Do you guys think it would also be proof that all along it was the cops who instigate the violence in some protests?
El Che
24th May 2002, 00:00
Peaceful resistence means resist peacefuly.
Also, I would like to quote the great man on the issue of Palestine. RIP Ghandi.
""Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French...What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct...If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs... As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regard as an unacceptable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds." Mahatma Gandhi, quoted in "A Land of Two Peoples" ed. Mendes-Flohr."
(Edited by El Che at 12:02 am on May 24, 2002)
guerrillaradio
24th May 2002, 00:29
Peaceful resistance is the best tool we have. I wholly support it. A good example of this (although it is not necessarily left-wing, in fact, it isn't at all I don't think), is in the Ruhr in 1921(?). The Versailles Treaty declared that Germany owed France and Belgium millions of dollars in reparations, and much of that was to be claimed in material from Ruhr, Germany's industrial heartland. Thing was, from 1918-23, Germany's economy was in total freefall (300% inflation or something like that), so, unsurprisingly, they were unable to pay reparations. After they fell behind on payments, France and Belgian troops entered the Ruhr and ordered the German miners to give them their materials they had quarried. The Germans refused, and promptly stopped working, so that there was no material to be claimed. They just turned up the quarry daily, and sat around, smoking. Eventually the French and Belgians brought in their own labour forces, but they were unable to retreive much material, and eventually withdrew in 1923(?). That's the best example I can think of, even if it isn't left-wing...
Martin Luther King was also a believer in Gandhian non-violence. There is a story of him in church where he is attacked by a neo-nazi and he just stands there and lets him punch him again and again. When people rush to MLK's help, he tells them not to touch the man and to let him to continue and to just pray for his soul. King doesn't raise a finger in the incident and doesn't allow his followers to go near the man until he eventually breaks down and is walked out.
Anonymous
27th May 2002, 22:27
I think that it takes so much strength to do what MLK did, but sometimes violent actions are nessecary.
Passive resistance is a great act when it can be pulled off. But think what would happen nowdays, go to uk.indymedia.org and find the video of cops attacking girls in Belfast.
Josip Broz Tito
28th May 2002, 16:39
Sometimes peaceful resistance is good. Especially if you don't have means of power. But I am not only for passive resistance because there is no revolution without armed struggle.
So be passive until you are stronger, then become active.
James
28th May 2002, 17:09
Passifism has been knocked rather badly on here (i'm looking at that moron member, CHEG). How ever, these type of people don't seem to realize that its MUCH HARDER to act non violently. It requirse much more strength.
Also, passifism makes you enemys look REALLY bad.
James
Josip Broz Tito
28th May 2002, 17:51
I am with you on this mate, but if you are living in "democratic capitalist" society and act ONLY passive, you will never change it.
James
28th May 2002, 19:17
I think it depends how you apply it. Nothing will happen if you just sit at home. I'll write more in a bit, my stomachs giving me bad pains.
CheGuevara
28th May 2002, 21:32
Yes, look at pacifism. It's worked great all through the world. China, India, America. It's really improved the lives of the people a lot. Grow up. This isn't some hippie ego contest, I don't give a flying fuck which "requires much more strength." I give a fuck about what will improve people's lives.
Pacifism has worked in some ways throughout the world. In India and AmeriKKKa the peoples' rights have improved slightly (still not what they should be). I think thought that the destruction of capitalism will only come about through war. For example, in America, pacifism worked because it was really only pride at stake and not money.
Avamatha
31st May 2002, 19:16
Oh, yes, why always throwing bombs? Think of this: A helluva big army is going towards to a country, wich they are going to take over. But at the countryline there are thousands and thousands of men, just standing there, without wheapons, without anything, sayin: "Go away, this is our home."
Now, who could open the fire there? Must be one REALLY big bastard...
Man, men are sick.
thebigcom
1st June 2002, 06:20
Ghandi was a protestor, well thats what he was in the most basic sense. the only difference was that Ghandi had a nation behind him. no violence is necessary when you have millions of people backing your cause.
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